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    Default MA770T UD3P and BE550 kinda slow

    Hi All:

    For many months now I have been trying to help my processor run faster without overclocking. I installed AMD`s 'driver' for the Phenom II, never enabled C&Q, etc. Once I found out the AMD driver might be deciding my processor`s workload based on the tasks it takes on at any time, I removed the AMD driver. When I rebooted my computer was blazing fast, for about 15 minutes. Then it slowed down to where it usually runs which to me is too slow for the hardware I have. I had never seen it run that fast and I was so happy. Now I`m back to about the same speed I used to get from my Athlon 64 X2 3800. I was able to successfully unlock the cores on my Phenom and have not had any problems from doing this. I have tried locking them back thinking that might help but no luck. Does anyone have suggestions on what I might look into next? I have read my Windows XP Pro might be trying to save power by turning cores off when it thinks they are not needed which may or may not be true but I don`t want cores turned off. I like the snappy performance I was getting for about 15 minutes in this past year. I really like my rig but wish it would speed up. Can ya`ll help? I have written down my BIOS settings exactly as I saw them so that there is no confusion as to what I have now and enclose them below.

    Specs are:
    GA MA770T UD3P
    AMD BE550 (unlocked)

    -------------------------G.Skill-----------------------------

    Memory Model......................F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK

    Mermory Type......................DDR3-1333 PC3-10666
    Memory Amount.....................2048MB x 2
    Latency Settings..................CL8-8-8-21 1.5V (This was approved memory when I ordered it)

    650 Watt PS

    BIOS

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    EC Firmware Selection [Hybrid]
    Advanced Clock Calibration [Auto]
    Value (All Cores) -2%
    Value (Core 0) -2%
    Value (Core 1) -2%
    Value (Core 2) -2%
    Value (Core 3) -2%

    CPU Core Control [Auto]
    x CPU core 0 Enabled
    x CPU core 1 Enabled
    x CPU core 2 Enabled
    x CPU core 3 Enabled

    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto] 3100Mhz
    CPU NorthBridge Freq [Auto] 2000Mhz
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (Mhz) 200
    PCIE Clock (Mhz) [Auto]
    HT Link Frequency [Auto]
    Set Memory Clock [Auto]
    x Memory Clock x 6.66 1333 Mhz

    DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    DCTs Mode [Unganged]
    DDR3 Timing Items [Manual] SPD Auto
    CAS# latency [8T] 9T 9T
    RAS to CAS R/W Delay [8T] 9T 9T
    Row Precharge Time [8T] 9T 9T
    Minimum RAS Active Time [21T] 24T 24T
    1T/2T Command Timing [1T] -- --
    TwTr Command Delay [5T] 5T 5T
    Trfc 0 for DIMM 1 [110ns] 110ns 110ns
    Trfc 2 for DIMM 2 [90ns] -- --
    Trfc 1 for DIMM 3 [110ns] 110ns 110ns
    Trfc 3 for DIMM 4 [90ns] -- --
    Write Recovery Time [10T] 10T 10T
    Precharge Time [5T] 5T 5T
    RowCycle Time [33T] 33T 33T
    RAS to RAS Delay [4T] 4T 4T

    Bank Interleaving [Enabled]
    Channel Interleave [Enabled]

    System Voltage Optimized

    System Voltage Control [Auto]
    x DRAM Voltage Control Auto
    x NB Voltage Control Auto
    x NB PCIE Voltage Control Auto
    x CPU NB VID Control Auto
    x CPU Voltage Control Auto
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3500V

    Advanced BIOS

    AMD CIE Support [Disabled]
    Virtualization [Disabled]
    AMD K8 Cool&Quiet control [Disabled]
    Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter]
    First Boot Device [Floppy]
    Second Boot Device [CDROM]
    Third Boot Device [Hard Disk]
    Password Check [Setup]
    HDD S.M.A.R.T. Compatibility [Disabled]
    Away Mode [Disabled]
    Full Screen Logo Show [Disabled]
    Backup BIOS Image to HDD [Disabled]
    Init Display First [PEG]
    OnChip SATA Controller [Enabled]
    OnChip SATA Type [Native IDE]
    x OnChip SATA Port 4/5 Type IDE
    Onboard LAN Function [Enabled]
    SMART LAN [Press Enter] (I entered nothing here)
    Onboard Audio Function [Enabled]
    Onboard 1394 Function [Enabled]
    USB Controllers [Enabled]
    USB Legacy Function [Enabled]
    USB Storage Function [Enabled]
    Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
    Onboard Parallel Port [378/IRQ7]
    Parallel Port Mode [SPP]
    x ECP Mode Use DMA 3


    Power Management Setup

    ACPI Suspend Type [S3(STR)]
    Soft-Off by Power Button [Instant-Off]
    USB Wake Up from S3 [Disabled]
    Modem Ring Resume [Disabled]
    PME Event Wake Up [Disabled]
    HPET Support [Disabled]
    Power On By Mouse [Disabled]
    PowerOn By Keyboard [Disabled]
    x KB Power ON Password [Enter]
    AC Back Function [Soft-Off]
    Power-On by Alarm [Disabled]
    x Date (of Month) Everyday
    x Resume Time (hh:mm:ss) 0:0:0:
    ErP Support [Disabled]

    PC Health Status

    Hardware Thermal Control [Disabled]
    Reset Case Open Status [Disabled]
    Case Opened Yes
    Vcore 1.344V
    DDR3 1.5V 1.520V
    x 3.3V 3.328V
    x 12V 12.048V
    Current System Temperature 37C
    Current CPU Temperature 44C
    Current SYSTEM Fan1 1350 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN2 1967 RPM
    Current POWER FAN Speed 0 RPM
    CPU Warning Temperature [60C/140F]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control [Enabled]



    Okay, that`s all. I have the Gigabyte 4350 ATI video card

    As I stated, I don`t want to overclock, especially now that I know my processor is capable of so much when it isn`t being manipulated by some esoteric program that I haven`t been able to get rid of. Can anyone help? Thanks and have a good one.

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    Default Re: MA770T UD3P and BE550 kinda slow

    How do you tell it is fast or slow? Benchmarks or just a feeling?

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    Default Re: MA770T UD3P and BE550 kinda slow

    LOL Chike!

    Yeah it was a feeling and it sure was good!

    No, I haven`t done any benchmarking. The reason is from what I have read over the last few months that if there is some software turning off some of the cores I figured a stress test wouldn`t really tell me anything since the processor would start working harder based on workload and benchmarking wouldn`t show this. If this isn`t true then yes I can certainly do that. I have run Memtest several times this past year to make sure my memory is okay and from what I can decipher the memory is fine. I ran Prime 95 soon after I put the computer together to see if I could lock it up but didn`t really pay attention to the scores since I`m not computer savvy enough to tell what I should do if they aren`t. I`ve never had lockups at all. Thanks for trying to help me out. I`m certainly open to suggestions you might have. Do you see anything from what I have set in the BIOS now that might improve performance? I would like to know that the settings I have put in are satisfactory. Then, if I can find nothing else, maybe I can use AMD Overdrive to speed things up a bit.

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    Only thing in BIOS that may be a problem is the 1T Command Timing, try 2T and see if there's any difference, or even set timings on auto.
    Can't argue with a feeling, but maybe the reason is not the CPU.
    Can you describe in what ways it feel slow? In what applications, games, browsing, etc.
    Lets start with 3 simple benchmarks, MaxxMEM² - PreView, SuperPi Mod v1.5 XS, and ATTO. You can fink the links to download them in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ity-tools.html

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    Default Re: MA770T UD3P and BE550 kinda slow

    Okay Chike: Thanks for your help. It will take me a little while since I`m working the next few days but will get back to you ASAP.

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    You know Chike, I have had lockups. I had just forgotten about them. Until tonight. It seems like interrupt requests aren`t being honored, even ctrl, alt, del. For a while I had HPET enabled. I got that disabled and then it was the video card not seated properly. Then I was trying to force the windows drive order in the motherboard and it would lockup and reboot. When I finally figured out the things I was doing wrong and corrected them, all was good till today when it locked up. It takes a very long time to quit writing to the hard drive when it is first started up the last few weeks but until today (if I remember right) it hadn`t locked up and required me shutting off the power. It acts sometimes like the video card is not powerful enough or something. When you close a window it leaves a black hole that size for a few minutes. As for the speed of the equipment, I ran the tests on a newly installed Win XP Pro with only drivers and activated. Most of this stuff I can live with but it would be nice to have it snappy and not freeze on me. These all may be separate issues. That is the main reason I am trying to find out if my hardware is good. That way I`ll know I`m doing something wrong and I can maybe find out what it is.

    Anyway, I tried to enclose an .rtf file with screen shots of the results of all three tests but it is too big. How should I send the information? Again, thanks much.

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    What video card are you using, since you mentioned issues that might be related to that?

    I can't really help with AMD systems, but just thought I'd pop in to drop you those comments. Hopefully Chike will be along shortly to better help you.

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    I don't know AMD either last I saw one was in the i386 days I think.
    Just trying to help figure out where the problem is, might be just a driver issue or something else that is not CPU related.

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    Hey I`m glad for any help at all. My video card is Gigabyte ATI 4350. I thought this could be my problem but now starting today my booting problem is back so I don`t know. What I did do was to take out my memory, then reboot so the motherboard could see a difference, then reinstall, no good. Then I unplugged my 3 hard drives and tried only a just out of the box new one and it works fine (No OS). Then I put my others back in and it takes forever to get to windoze.

    I was trying to get screenshots of the tests I ran the other day for this discussion but can`t get them on the website due to size so I will try to convey as much as possible by typing.

    Super Pi
    32M Calculation Start. 24 iterations.
    Real memory =2147483647
    Available real memory =2147483647
    Allocated memory 268435496

    0h 00m 15.000s The initial value finished
    0h 01m 02.141s Loop 1 finished
    0h 01m 55.891s Loop 2 finished
    0h 02m 50.031s Loop 3 finished
    0h 03m 43.672s Loop 4 finished
    0h 04m 37.438s Loop 5 finished
    0h 05m 31.141s Loop 6 finished
    0h 06m 25.16 Loop 7 finished
    0h 07m 19.047s Loop 8 finished
    0h 08m 12.688s Loop 9 finished
    0h 09m 06.563s Loop 10 finished
    0h 10m 00.609s Loop 11 finished
    0h 10m 54.406s Loop 12 finished
    0h 11m 48.219s Loop 13 finished
    0h 12m 41.750s Loop 14 finished
    0h 12m 35.828s Loop 15 finished
    0h 14m 29.391s Loop 16 finished
    0h 15m 23.313s Loop 17 finished
    0h 16m 16.875s Loop 18 finished
    0h 17m 10.828s Loop 19 finished
    0h 18m 04.016s Loop 20 finished
    0h 18m 57.047s Loop 21 finished
    0h 19m 49.016s Loop22 finished
    0h 20m 39.891s Loop 23 finished
    Oh 21m 26.297s Loop 24 finished
    0h 22m 12.156s PI value output -? pi_data.text


    Okay guys I will try another test tomorrow night. I must go to bed now. Thanks for any suggestions or maybe even a solution!

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    Default Re: MA770T UD3P and BE550 kinda slow

    Have you tried the 2T memory Command Timing?

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