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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    DON'T put the mobo anti-static bag underneath the motherboard!
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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Yes, box or wooden table only!

    The pins do not point up really, so images would be best if you want us to check them to be sure. Try to borrow a camera tomorrow, or have someone come by that can bring one

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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Okay, that's interesting. I got a beep but nothing on screen. I reset. I got a beep. And then:
    CMOS checksum error occurs--defaults loaded

    And there's a menu. :D Thanks! I guess I'm in.

    I'll load default.

    I know what I did wrong. It was indeed a noob mistake. What I did was...

    Anyway, now that I am in, I guess I need to test both the individual sticks and the slots, right?
    >__>

    How should I do this? Do 6 sticks on slots 1 and then 1 stick on 2 and 3 on memtest. For slots 4-6, I just do 1 stick each?

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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Wait, do I test the ram sticks on rated speeds and v? OR does any speed matter for memtest?

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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Did you remove your mobo from the mobo tray when you tried booting on the box?
    How many memory modules do you have?
    What was the newb mistake? It might help others avoid the same mistake.

    I haven't worked with X58 systems so I'll let others advise you how to best setup your system to test your ram at its rated speed.

    It's best to start with loading optimized bios settings before you make any needed bios changes.
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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Thanks, profJim.

    I removed the motherboard from the tray and it is now lying on top of its Gigabyte box.

    The memory kit has 6 sticks.

    I have now been tinkering with 6 motherboards now, but it's the first time I made this mistake... I didn't stuff the ram stick all the way into the slot.



    It has only been 2 months since I really worked on a motherboard. But I guess it was long enough for me to forget the basic procedure of making sure the stick is fully depressed into the slot. It was almost all the way in, but I guess it wasn't in enough. When the side latches began to spring up, I guess I assumed that it was in and merely pushed the latches up to the side without locking in the stick. Usually, I like to work on a motherboard out of the box on a light, portable, square shaped desk, which I can easily move around the room. I like it because it allows me to take a look at and work on various projects from 360deg. But I let someone borrow the tiny desk. I guess not having the desk threw off my sense of routine. Instead, I have been working in an uncomfortably cramped corner of my room, where I keep the desktop. For various reasons, I think my unfamiliar place of tinkering acted as a disincentive to check the ram. When the system didn't post, I checked everything but the ram. I guess the ram was only partially depressed into the slot all day. And that's my honest excuse.

    I highly doubt that anyone else will make the same mistake I did, though. It was pretty retarded.

    But at least I did load optimized. :)
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    We get too soon old and too late smart!
    Thanks for your detailed explanation, I'm sure that it will help many others over time.
    FWIW, your mistake is an easy one too make.

    When I insert memory modules, I push in at a slight angle (top to bottom) and almost always feel 2 clicks, when the top and bottom ends of the memory fully seat. If I don't feel both clicks, I remove the module and repeat the installation procedure until I feel both clicks.

    Over time, system heating and cooling cycles can cause connection problems for add-in cards and/or cables. One of the first things I check when an unexpected problem occurs is to remove and reconnect cable connections and plug-in hardware. I don't remove the cpu and/or heatsink except as a last resort.

    As far as testing memory, I'd test with all modules installed at their rated speed, timings, and voltages. If Memtest86+ generates any errors, then you'll need to adjust memory settings or possibly test with fewer modules installed.

    It's a real PITA when you have to test individual memory modules or slots to see what is causing the problem.

    Good luck, I'm sure that we will hear back from you, one way or another.
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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    Nice to see some progress man!

    Use white slots only for testing, or anytime you are using 3 sticks or less.

    Nice to see you found the problem and the board is actually ok!!

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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    I want to thank Vinster, Wazza300, flyfisher, Lsdmeasap, and profJim for helping me figure out my user error issue. ^^;

    Ok. So, here's my update.

    ...

    Last night, in preparation for the single stick cold boot tests, I took the motherboard out of the case and set it on the Gigabyte box. The cpu is cooled by the Intel cooler. I am using Arctic Silver 5. I am going to test each stick in slot 1, which is the first white slot closest to the socket. The system is connected to a monitor by an RX(HD)2600Pro. The system is powered by a PC Power&Cooling 750 Silencer.

    I have an optical drive connected to the system with Memtest inside. I have no hdds connected.

    I cleared CMOS and loaded optimized defaults. Only voltages and frequencies are now at default settings.

    The I7 930 is running at 2.8GHz, 1.26875VCore and 1.15V QPI/VTT.
    The ram stick defaults to 8-8-8-20, 1066MHz at 1.5VDimm.
    The board's default BCLK is 133.

    The board is GA-X58A-UD3R rev2.0. I am using the latest BIOS, which is Ff2.

    The kit I am testing is HX3X12G1600C9. I bought the kit from Newegg.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145235


    My first stick passed Memtest last night and I shut down for the night.

    The first thing I did when I woke up was to cold boot into Memtest. The first thing Memtest did was to paint the bottom half of the screen red. The stick failed every test.

    I believe the kit is not faulty. So, I will try to manually set BIOS for something stable. Alas, the difficulty of finding a stable cold bootable setting is why I am here. :)

    RAM GUY at the Corsair forum instructs me to turn on XMP profile. This is unacceptable because XMP precludes my overclocking the cpu. But I will test it out anyway. Right now, I just want to be able to cold boot at stock speeds.

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    Default Re: Having trouble testing each stick on X58A UD3R, what am I forgetting? ^^;

    You have 12gb of ram?you need more qpi/vtt atleast 1.35v maybe more,this could be why its suffering from cold boots
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