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    Default Re: Overclocking a Intel Q9300 on a GA-P43-ES3G (rev1.4) and memory speed problem

    Run the calibreation test, this should give us a clue what the real temperatures are.

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    Default Re: Overclocking a Intel Q9300 on a GA-P43-ES3G (rev1.4) and memory speed problem

    Chike,
    Just to be clear. Should I go back to stock (initial BIOS settings) with EIST enabled and set the cores to 7C above my intake air temp setting with tham at idle? (After they settle say 5 minites) Sound about correct?
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    Yes defaults, then set CPU Ratio 6, and vcore 1.1v manually.
    And don't forget the intake temps as well.
    If temps are way off from 6-7c from ambiant than maybe a lower TJmax is set.

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    Chike,
    I "calibrated" and here is what I got. I used a +7C from ambient as a target. Started at 24C Ambient air +7c = 31C as a start point. seems to me to be a conservative # to start at. That is what I "calibrated" to with 6x and 1.1 only one core, #2 was running at 2% and I let it "settle in" for 30min at that setting.
    Real Temp and Core Temp do not play well with each other at under ~45C. They need different offsets in order to agree with each other and I decided to match Core Temp to Real Temp in the over 45C range. Under that temp they diverge some but I figure "so what" it is the above 45C that is critical anyway.
    The off sets are:
    Core Temp -11 -05 -08 -10
    Real Temp -17 -14 -9.5 -06
    I also noted that they do not agree as to which processor is which.
    Processor# 0 1 2 3
    Core Temp 0 1 2 3
    Real Temp 0 2 3 1
    Like I said, they do not seem to play well together. However I gave Real Temp the nod as being the one to match Core Temp to it since you recommended using Real Temp as the program to "calibrate" with.
    One question. Now the TjMax is different for the different cores in Real Temp. Do we need to do something with them or just leave them and let the lowest set core act as the "early warning" or the "canary in the coal mine?"
    Here is my run of Prime and IBT after calibration. Note the Max Temps in Real&Core Temp window readings I reset both after Prime going into IBT.
    Do these numbers make more sense to you?
    Thank you for your helping me start to learn "The Black Art" of OCing!
    BD
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    Default Re: Overclocking a Intel Q9300 on a GA-P43-ES3G (rev1.4) and memory speed problem

    How did you calibrate RealTemp?
    The idle calibration field is not an offset.
    Try TJmax 90 (like offset -10) for cores 0 & 3 and TJmax 95 (offset -5) for cores 1 & 2, and adjust idle calibration as needed.
    See if high temps make more sense.

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    Default Re: Overclocking a Intel Q9300 on a GA-P43-ES3G (rev1.4) and memory speed problem

    Chike,
    So does the TjMax change the settings that I did with the Idle settings? I do not have a clear understanding of what this is about. The Real temp documentation that I got at Techpowerup.com is not very clear. Is there another site with better information about this?
    Thanks,
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    Changing TJ max is just like having an offset, the idle calibration is meant to correct the slope at low temperatures.

    The sensors only report distance to TJmax. The software take this valu and substract it from a "known" TJmax, and display this value as the current temperature. Different models/stepping CPUs has different TJmax.
    That is why I have said before that the distance to TJmax is not going to change, because it is the actual reading from the CPU.
    Core Temp use an offset, RealTemp let you change TJmax, but the result is the same.

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    Chike,
    Also when you refer to the settings please specify which program you are referring to CT or RT I will assume that in CT you mean cores left to right and in CT I will go according to the core #s in the program. I adjusted RT in this fashion. What am I looking for as results
    Bd?

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    The cores are as you numbered them, though to me it looks, by the adjustments you made, that RealTemp cores are 0 3 2 1, when compared to Core Temp.

    The result we looking for are more even temp at high temperatures.

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    Default Re: Overclocking a Intel Q9300 on a GA-P43-ES3G (rev1.4) and memory speed problem

    Chike,
    Is there a way to run one core at a time?
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