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    Default X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    I'm fairly new to OC'ing... but pretty much everything I have learned has been from this site, although I just now finally registered. I have searched and tried almost everything I can find trying to get my system stable with 12gb of ram with no luck. 6gb stable with no issues, soon as I go to 12gb memtest finds errors. Hopefully you guys can point me in the right direction.
    Thank you in advance!

    CPU: i7 930
    MB: X58A-UD3R Rev.1 Bios F1
    Ram: Corsair Dom. 1600mhz 6x2GB TR3X6G1600C8D G timing shown as 8-8-8-24
    Vid: EVGA GTX570
    PSU: Corsair TX850W
    OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64


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    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled] 
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency ..........................  (3400Mhz)
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [200]
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Extreme]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x8]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................[8]
    tRCD .......................................[8]
    tRP .........................................[8]
    tRAS .......................................[24]
    
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................[Auto]
    tRRD .......................................[Auto]
    tWTR ...................................... [Auto]
    tWR ........................................[Auto]
    tWTP .......................................[Auto]
    tWL ........................................[Auto]
    tRFC .......................................[Auto]
    tRTP .......................................[Auto]
    tFAW ......................................[Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ................[1]
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................[Auto]
    
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................[Auto]
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................[1.26875v]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............[1.495v]
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................[Auto]
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[1.200v]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................[1.140v]
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[Auto]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............[1.660v]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    Ive tested a ton of variations of DRAM voltage and QPI/VTT Voltage all the way up to:
    DRAM - 1.680v and
    QPI/VTT - 1.595v

    Still getting a memtest errors, one time I made it 2 hours before it found an error.. I'm afraid to go much higher... any suggestions?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    You can tell by the cpu and PCI-E clock drives that you did not load optimized defaults. You need to go back to the main menu in BIOS and select Load Optimized Defaults. Be careful. Doing so will reset everything and you will have to reconfigure everything, including Integrated Peripherals and Advanced BIOS Settings. Check the latter to reconfigure boot priority and the former to choose between IDE, AHCI, and RAID.

    Afterward, cpu clock drive will show 900mV, I think, and PCIE, 800mV.

    Also, Uncore frequency should be 2x, 2x+1, or 2x+2 of memory multiplier. So, with your memory multiplier at 8, you can try Uncore multiplier at 16, 17, or 18.

    Anyway, can you tell us what you did to make sure that all 6 sticks are fine? If you have not tested all 6, then what I would do is test 3 sticks in the white slots with Memtest. If they pass, then swap out the sticks for the other three. If any of the set of 3 fail, then you could test the sticks in the set 1 at a time to see which is bad.

    If all six pass, then I would proceed by raising cpu VCore. Try testing it at 1.3V.
    Last edited by ROSESTEEL; 02-18-2011 at 05:23 PM.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    ^Nope, I got it wrong: cpu clock drive should =800mV and PCI-E clock drive should =900mV.

    The reason why I mention uncore is because when I had a stick that was going bad(?), I could only run at Uncore multi=16 for a while.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    I ran each set of ram with memtest for 4 hours each with no errors at all.

    I loaded optimized defaults.
    set cpu-vcore as you requested... memtest still finds errors.

    At what point do I start to look at my board for a bad slot?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    If your seeing full 12gb in the bios you don't have a bad slot,when do you get errors?from cold? Try setting qpi link speed to 44x too and around 1.38-1.4v qpi/vtt voltage

    You could try testing 3 sticks a time in the white slots only,test with memtest to see if you have any faulty sticks,if you do get errors with one batch of 6gb then try narrowing it down by testing one stick at a time on first white slot from cpu socket

    Some other things to try are testing 12gb at lower freq,or looser timings 9 9 9 24? Keep qpi voltage at 1.4v if no errors up the ram speed and qpi voltage,adding a few clicks of qpi/pll voltage can help lower qpi/vtt voltage too
    Last edited by wazza300; 02-19-2011 at 07:57 AM.
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    bios is showing 12gb. Its not a cold boot issue... cold or warm its the same.

    I tested my ram exactly the way you described. Had 0 errors in 4 hours of testing on each set with memtest.

    I will try the suggested settings right now.

    also tried setting my cpu vcore to 1.3 as suggested above and my pc wouldn't boot.

    tried setting QPI link speed to x44, hung on a black screen and wouldn't boot. Had to set it back to auto.
    Last edited by nasioc; 02-19-2011 at 08:09 AM. Reason: updates

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    You just could have a poorly matched set,you should run 12gb at 1600mhz with less than 1.5v qpi/vtt imo,could have a hungry cpu imc(integrated memory controller) too,so you might need to compromise between qpi voltage and memory speed/timings


    it has to be voltages cause your only getting errors with full 12gb
    Last edited by wazza300; 02-19-2011 at 08:11 AM.
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
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    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    should my CMD be at 1t instead of 2? so 8-8-8-24-1t?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R F1 12GB of ram problems

    You could try 1t,have you set qpi/vtt voltage to auto just to see what it sets it to with 12gb @1600mhz?
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
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    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
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    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

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