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    Default OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    Hey, first time overclocking here. I would like to know how far I can OC my Q6600 with stock fan/heatsink. And if I can't OC with stock, any suggestions on aftermarket CPU cooler/fan.

    Specs are:
    8GB PC6400 OCZ memory
    nvidia geforce GTS 450
    700 Watt PS
    EP45-UD3R Gigabyte Mobo
    Antec 900 Case

    Here are my screenshots of CPU-z and Coretemp.




    Also screenshots of M.I.T.


    Last edited by Gerardz; 03-24-2011 at 05:09 PM.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerardz View Post
    I would like to know how far I can OC my Q6600 with stock fan/heatsink.
    I don't know, but we will find out soon, at least while you are looking for aftermarket cooler.
    Please fill your system specs in your signature, including a ling to your memory or at least it's model/part number.

    You state the memory is a PC-6400, so are you overclocking them already?
    Have you tested those settings to be stable, with Prime95. OCCT, IBT(IntelBurnTest)/LinX, or any other test.
    Please post max core temps for Prime95 blend torture run after 15-30 mminutes.

    We use templets to post our settings, please fill it for the next time post them:
    Gigabyte BIOS Templates (To Give Us Your Settings)

    Screen captures from windows are easy to do, jus press Printscreen to capture the whole window, or Alt+PrintScreen to capture only the active front window, then paste it in Paint and save it, preferrably as .png file.
    If you capture the whole screen to capture more then one window, arrange them closer as possible, and crop the are they fit in to minimize image size.

    Please post a screen capture of EasyTune Tuner -> Advanced -> Voltage tab for the settings above.
    Also post the results of MaxxMEM² - PreView, for further comparison.
    Run other benchmarks as well, like your favorite game or 3DMark.
    Last edited by Chike; 03-24-2011 at 07:41 PM.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    Thanks for the reply, I will run these tests and get the screenshots.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40Ghz (266x9)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [TURBO]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 4.00A
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................6
    tRP'...........................................6
    tRAS..........................................18

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC...........................................54
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:4 Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 1
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 1
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 8
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 8
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 9
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under

    vcore. Auto is fine if not overclocking

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65. Auto is fine if not overclocking

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB




    Core Temp screenshot while running Prime95 for 45Mins

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    Temps quite high for Prime95, so you won't be able to run linpack(IBT or LinX) tests. Those give good indication if there's enough vcore or not.
    Can you run MemSet and see if performance Level is realy 4 or what value it is set to?
    I am assuming you alreay have loaded optimized defaults, if not please do, but note that if you have raid will need to reconfigure it before attempting to run windows.
    Before you make changes, press F11 at main BIOS screen and save your settings in a profile that can be easily restored(F12) later.
    Lets try minimal OC with stock vcore:
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66Ghz (333x8)
     
     
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [333]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]
     
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
     
     
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0
     
     
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [3.20B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
     
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................6
    tRP'...........................................6
    tRAS..........................................18
     
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................3 [Auto] 
    tWR............................................6 [Auto]
    tRFC...........................................54 [Auto]
    tRTP...........................................3 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0 [Auto]
     
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
     
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:4 [7] <<< later try 6 or 5
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 1
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 1
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 8 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 8
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 9
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
     
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: [7] <<< later try 6 or 5
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto 
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
     
    Motherboard Voltage Control
     
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration...............: [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore….………......................: [Normal]
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: [1.2-1.24]
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...........: [1.5]
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.........: [auto]
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*..........: [Auto]
     
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V.............: [1.2-1.24] 
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V.............; [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V.............: [Auto]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V..............: [Auto]
     
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [2.1]
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V...........: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V...........: [Auto]
     
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    If the computer does not boot as result of changes, let it attempt boot for 5 cycles, then turn off the PSU(or disconnect the power cable), pess the power button once, and turn it back on after 15-20 seconds.
    In extreme cases you may need to clear CMOS(2nd part in the post).

    This is onlly 11% CPU OC, and 25% FSB OC, we will see how far you can OC according to temps.
    Good luck.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    Try to lower tRD(Static tRead Valuein BIOS) for both channels, 6 should be fine, 5 may be possible, and see the differences in memory performance
    Run Prime95 small FFT for an hour, then blend for 6-8 hours.

    EDIT: if Prime95 fail, record which FFT size caused failure. or if you get a BSOD(blue screen of death) the error code.
    Last edited by Chike; 03-25-2011 at 11:31 AM.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    ran Prime95 small FFT for about 2 Hours, no errors. Going run blend for 8hrs then Ill post the results. thanks for the help.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    no errors running prime95 for 9 hours with core temps about 65-69 C.

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    Default Re: OC help with Q6600 on UD3R

    If you want a decent middle tier cpu cooler and fan, check out Newegg's Xigmatec models, some of which have rebates that drop the price down to less than $25 after MIR and with free shipping. The rebate is good through March 31st.

    I just ordered the XIGMATEK BALDER SD1283, it's the all nickel plated "pimp" of the 1283 models.
    The Dark Knight model offers nearly identical performance with a classy looking all black finish.

    I wanted a cooler that wasn't so big that it might cause problems with fitting memory modules or interfering with cable routing or motherboard access. Many of their 120mm coolers come with a fan that is rated for 89+ cfm and high pressure air flow. Maximum fan speed is 2200 rpm and all the reviews say that this fan starts to get really loud above 1600 rpm. I'll probably just use my existing Scythe S-Flex 64 cfm fans in a push/pull dual fan setup for maximum near quiet sound levels.

    There are many other good brands & models that will cool about 2 - 4 degrees better and cost about $35 - $40, but these Xigmatek coolers will be fine with middle range dual or quad overclocked core processors.

    If price is no object and you want a top tier, very quiet cooler, look into the Noctua coolers.

    With my current 92mm Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7 Rev 2, my e6300 at 3.60GHz runs prime95 with core temps = 52 degrees, when the ambient room temperature is 20 - 22 degrees. My LinX or IBT test temperatures are in the 59 - 62 degree range.
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