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    Default How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    On GA-X58A-UD3R ver. 1.0, BIOS F6 (G-SATA port 6 enabled, AHCI selected, SATA III firmware "AUTO"), Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1, single Intel 510 120GB 6GB/s SSD on G-SATA port 6, Marvell 88SE9128 controller chip on motherboard, Intel RST 10.5.0.1015 (iaStor.sys) SATA driver installed, Intel SSD Toolbox 2.0.2 installed and working, no Marvell *anything* installed (not console driver, not MRU/MSU RAID utility): What is the best way to ensure -- absolutely -- that TRIM commands are in fact passed to the single SSD? If the setup described above accomplishes that result, please be so kind as to confirm that. Thank you very much for your help and advice on this.
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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Open a command prompt and type "fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify" (without the quotes). If it returns "DisableDeleteNotify = 1" then trim is disabled. If it returns "DisableDeleteNotify = 0" then trim is enabled.

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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Adding to flyfisher's suggestion, you can run a batch file from the command prompt:

    CHKTRIM.bat
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    fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
    @echo ...TRIM is  ENABLED = 0 (YIPPEE!!!)
    @echo ...TRIM is disabled = 1 (oh poop)
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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Thank you for your replies, but the issue is not whether the OS (Windows 7) is issuing the TRIM command (which it is) -- that is what fsutil indicates, as I understand it. The issue is whether the TRIM command from the OS is actually being passed to the SSD via the Marvell 9128 controller, where the SATA driver is the Intel RST driver. I would very much appreciate hearing what Lsdmeasap might have to say on this issue. Thanks and best regards.

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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Does your toolbox allow you to run on that Intel 510 SSD when you have it plugged into the onboard Marvell controller?

    I don't believe the Intel RST driver interacts with the Marvell controller, just the ICH10. If you haven't installed specific Marvell drivers for that 9128 then what drivers are appearing in Device Manager for that extra controller? Microsoft?
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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Intels RST driver is only for the intell controller sata ports. Marvell 9128 controller has its own driver. Windows has issues with their driver installed. Unless this has changed with recent updates. It is suggested just install the Marvell console, not the driver. This will remove the "!" next to the marvell controller in windows device manager.
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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Quote Originally Posted by ABalthazor View Post
    Does your toolbox allow you to run on that Intel 510 SSD when you have it plugged into the onboard Marvell controller?

    I don't believe the Intel RST driver interacts with the Marvell controller, just the ICH10. If you haven't installed specific Marvell drivers for that 9128 then what drivers are appearing in Device Manager for that extra controller? Microsoft?
    Thank you for your response. For your information, the Intel SSD Toolbox 2.0.2 runs very nicely: SSD Optimizer, SMART attributes, etc.
    The 510 SSD itself runs very nicely (e.g., sequential 360 read, 200 write), albeit at less than top rated speed. If no Marvell drivers are installed, then it is not using a Marvell driver; that leaves Intel RST and Microsoft, pretty much a tossup.
    The issue that I asked about, however, remains: Is the TRIM command reaching the SSD if the SSD if it is plugged into a port entrusted to the Marvell 9128 chip? I would welcome a response to the question posed.

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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acebmxer View Post
    Intels RST driver is only for the intell controller sata ports. Marvell 9128 controller has its own driver. Windows has issues with their driver installed. Unless this has changed with recent updates. It is suggested just install the Marvell console, not the driver. This will remove the "!" next to the marvell controller in windows device manager.
    Thank your for your reply and suggestion. You are right about the glories of the Marvell 9128 and its driver; the Crucial SSD forums (in particular those dealing with the C300, a 6GB/s SSD) contain a wealth of ultimately inconclusive posts about Marvell 9128 and TRIM, although posters are generally united in disliking both the chip and its drivers.
    At this point the 510 SSD works nicely (e.g., sequential 360 read, 200 write) on somebody's driver. The Intel SSD Toolbox 2.0.2 works nicely: SSD Optimizer, SMART attributes, etc. I am not panicked about a yellow bang in the Windows Device Manager, and I am not inclined to install Marvell *anything* unless it is demonstrated to be necessary to cause the TRIM command issued by the OS to arrive safely at the SSD and there be executed.
    So the issue I raised, the question I asked, remains: How to guarantee/ensure, given a Marvel 9128 chip, that the TRIM command issued by the OS makes it to the SSD on the "Powered by Marvell" G-SATA port 6, for execution. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on this issue. Thank you for your interest and response.

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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    Device manager will tell you which driver you are using, it isn't a tossup. And it is likely a Microsoft default driver, since Intel's drivers won't interact with the Marvell controller.

    Other than doing your own testing on a known TRIM-enabled set of ports like the Intel SATA 6G ones on the P67 chipset and comparing them to the Marvell SATA 6G speeds, or finding such tests on the net, I'm not sure how you'd find this out.

    I asked about your 510 on the marvell ports and the SSD toolbox because the SSD toolbox will not perform any functions on my 510 when connected to the Marvell 9182 chip on my board (a more recent version of the one on your board.) It sees the drive, but won't do anything with it, unless I connect it to my ICH10 SATA ports.
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    Default Re: How to Ensure SATA III TRIM on X58A-UD3R, Intel 510 6GB/s SSD, Marvell 9128?

    I think I found out why the 510 may be able to be manipulated when connected to your Marvell ports; it appears if you use the default MS AHCI driver, instead of installing the Marvell, then the Intel Toolbox will still function with the drive. The Marvell driver prevents this from happening. Of course the question remains whether or not you actually need the Toolbox at all, and the related OP's question about TRIM is related to that.
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