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    Default New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    Just purchased a OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD. 95% sure its the 34nm version.
    My question is - what do I need to do to prepare my system, and what are some things I need to know about SSDs?

    I have updated my bios to F11d with the new 10.1 Intel RST rom. I also have both 10.1 and 10.5 RST drivers handy. What other software do I need? I'll probably run a benchmark or two before and after OS install most likely, but I'll mainly be looking to maximize life.

    I'm looking for tips from the experts before I dig into my case again. Thanks!
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    Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...light=agility2 where I got some excellent suggestions when I was preparing to install win7 on an Agility2 ssd several months ago. At the end of the thread are several posts and links that deal with the 34 vs 25 Nand versions and some of the problems that you might encounter with the 25nm versions.

    Double check the OCZ forums about some issues when using RST later than v9.6. I seem to remember that Trim might not work with any RST 10.x versions.

    Let us know if you have any more questions.

    **CORRECTION** I just checked the thread and using TRIM is not an issue with RST 10.x versions. As of several months ago RST 10.x did NOT support the OCZ Toolbox software. Maybe they have fixed this issue, check with the OCZ SSD forums to be sure.
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    Default Re: New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanDude05 View Post
    My question is - what do I need to do to prepare my system, and what are some things I need to know about SSDs?
    From OCZ Forum: THE BASIC GUIDE & FAQ - ABC for OCZ SSD

    It has everything you need...

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    Default Re: New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    thanks guys. Another question- you mentioned moving system folders to another drive? I'm a bit confused as to how you would first determine which folders to move and how you would accomplish it.
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    You just want your os on the ssd,plug it into first Intel port and enable raid or ahci,all your media,pics/music/films and non important programs regarding performance can be dragged to or installed on your storage hdd's,put all the heavy loading programs on your ssd like PhotoShop ect
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    Default Re: New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    You just want your os on the ssd,plug it into first Intel port and enable raid or ahci,all your media,pics/music/films and non important programs regarding performance can be dragged to or installed on your storage hdd's,put all the heavy loading programs on your ssd like PhotoShop ect
    On my data drive, I keep a bootable mirror of my SSD as backup:

    SSD: just one partition, the "OS" volume.
    HDD: two partitions, the "OS backup" volume and the "Data" volume.

    The "OS backup" volume on HDD is made the active partition. Once or twice each month, I use a disk cloning program called Casper to copy "OS" to "OS backup". When my SSD dies (which actually happened to my HTPC), I immediately boot from my HDD without skipping a beat. Re-activating Windows 7 on the HDD is an easy phone call, if required.

    I haven't read about anyone else doing this...

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    You need to leave around 10gb free for trim I think too? Don't use or run to many benchmark programs as it can degrade performance,I like to use atto for benching hdd's/ssd's,I remember my old HP pc having a bootable os partition,I think you create a bootable ISO image? And save it to your hdd,its good performance wise for your ssd to format then enable trim and re install os either from back up or windows disk? From what I've read
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanDude05 View Post
    thanks guys. Another question- you mentioned moving system folders to another drive? I'm a bit confused as to how you would first determine which folders to move and how you would accomplish it.
    The OCZ SSD forum threads discuss which folders can be moved from your ssd boot drive to your hdd. Check out posts 44 - 57 in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...light=agility2 for additional information. Some of the folders can be "moved" by changing windows environment settings. I'm "saving" the first hidden hdd partition for possibly restoring my most recent saved ssd backup image in case my ssd suddenly fails because it is no longer recognized by my system. I've moved the following folders to the second hdd partition.
    • Temporary Internet Files
    • FireFox Cache
    • Internet Explorer Cache
    • Default Downloads Folder
    • Indexing Folder (about 400MAB)
    • Windows TEMP and TMP folders
    • Windows PageFile
    • Windows Hyberfile.sys (waking and sleeping should somewhat be faster if this is on the ssd)
    My system seldom uses the swap file so this isn't a performance issue for me.
    I manually save files to my hdd partition that has the MY DOCUMENTS folder.
    I install my large graphics benchmark programs to another partition that has PROGRAM FILES and PROGRAM FILES (x86) folders.
    Check out Darkje's suggested JunctionLinkMagic (in post #57) to move some folders to another location.
    Now that I'm running with 8GB of ram, I'm going to follow Darkje's suggestion to use Data RamDisk to create a 2GB or 3GB ram disk for my 1GB swap file, TMP/TEMP folders and the browser cache folders.

    My 60GB ssd has 32 GB of free space after 5 months of use.

    **edit** Wazza300's suggestion to perform very limited benchmark tests is excellent. The OCZ forums go into a lot of detail why frequent or excessive ssd benchmark tests will severely degrade write performance for SandForce ssds. As I recall, the best way to restore performance to a degraded ssd is to perform a secure erase and then restore an o/s backup image. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure that formatting a degraded ssd and installing a backup image won't restore the ssd to like new condition.
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    Default Re: New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    To verify that TRIM is enabled on your win7 system, here is a DOS batch file called CHKTRIM.bat:
    Code:
    fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify
    @echo ...TRIM is  ENABLED = 0 (YIPPEE!!!)
    @echo ...TRIM is disabled = 1 (boo hoo)
    pause
    It took many laborious hours of testing and debugging to perfect this tool.

    I saved this batch file to the root directory of my D: drive.
    You will need to right click and select "Run as Administrator" to run this file.

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    Default Re: New OCZ SSD - Expert advice requested

    Save that text as that filename then run?

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    And a little off-topic... I just found my epic DDR2-1150 OCZ ram is now throwing 800+ errors in Memtest86+...
    And apparently OCZ stopped making ram earlier this year... ****!!!!. This should be a FUN! RMA process...
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