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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    I have heard about stuck DTSs before but not at 56.
    I guess the only way to go is with the diode sensor. See which one is it in SpeedFan by comparing to EasyTune HW Monitor.
    SpeedFan lets you change the names and disable thos you don't need.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    It seems unlikely that both of your core temperature sensors are stuck at the exact same 56 (C) reading. The problem might be with your motherboard's sensor chip. The best way to test this would be to test your system with another cpu and/or you could test with your cpu in another motherboard.

    Even if the problem is with your cpu, that doesn't necessarily mean that there are other problems with the cpu.
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    The DTSs are inside the CPU and are read from the NorthBridge.
    The diode sensor seems to work so the only way to find out assuming the OP does not have access to another CPU is to wait till the diode temps go above 50c or so and see if the DTSs start moving.

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    About how long should I run OCCT's OCCT test with a Dark Knight on an E5200 to make a difference in temperature? After 10 minutes of ~100% CPU utilization there was absolutely no change whatsoever (56C).
    The OCCT CPU test probably won't generate core temps above 56 (C). IBT, LinX, or OCCT Lipack tests might raise the core temps to 60 (C) or higher, but with his stock cpu settings the temperatures might not be higher than 56 (C).

    Running any of these tests with a passively cooled cpu (disconnected cpu fan) for 3 - 5 minutes should definitely get his core temps up to 60 - 70 (C) or more.

    It's my understanding that the IT8xxx chip handles most temperature/voltage readings, even though his cpu has three temperature sensors.
    That's why he might need to perform one or both of the cpu swap tests to narrow down the problem.
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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    Passively cooled at stock maybe.
    I suggest running it with HWMonitor(CPUID) which monitors all the sensors andd keep track of min/max.

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    Thanks so much for all of the replies!

    My friend's MBP bit the dust earlier this week and he's heading out of town soon, so I told him I'd at the very least take a look at it before he left. Since my computer isn't exactly screaming "FIX ME," that has taken priority. As soon as I get this all squared away I'll dive head first into everyone's suggestions :)
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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    Hey everyone, I sorted out any other issues and am now back to tackling Overclocking my computer.

    A status update on the DTS shows that when running Linpack tests and some Prime95 I can get the SpeedFan reported CPU temperature up to 54C with fans off. This allowed the DTS to move past 56C (highest I saw was 63C for less than a second). I did not let it get much hotter, stopping all tests, and shutting down. After stopping the tests the Core Temps went back to 56 C, but I noticed the two cores having different temperatures at different times, and they did change. Perhaps mine only run well at higher temperatures. Intel seems to have commented on the situation in the past. I just haven't noticed any stuck as high as 56 C. Idle temperatures (for CPU) are around 20 C and under light load near 24 C.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    63c is not much so don't be worried, though a bit hot for stock.
    Run Prime95 small FFT customised to 24K, this test gets the highest temps with Prime95, and at least for my CPU both cores are steady at the same temo.
    Run a baseline LinX benchmark with 1536MB, memory benchmark and others for comparison.
    Maybe start with 266MHz FSB, 2.53-3.32GHz, or do you want to try higher FSB?

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    Why should I run more Stress Tests? The computer has been stable and hasn't failed CPU Stressing and MemTests on BIOS optimized defaults pass 10 times dual channel interleaved, at least 5 times single configuration. I have been using stock everything except the Dark Knight HDT. I heated the computer up to check DTS with no fans and everything seemed to work (Core temps increased). Everything is OK with fans on not overclocked (except still have stuck core temps).

    Are you suggesting I begin overclocking, Chike? I'm not the most familiar with the process and was hoping for help with BIOS settings and general order of operations.
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    Default Re: GA-EP43-UD3L Rev 1 with E5200 Help

    I suggested the Prime95 just to test the DTSs to see what is the difference between them if any.
    The IBT and others obly to record baseline performance, GFlops for LinX , memory bandwith and latency, and others as you see fit. For sure you want to mage graphics benchmarks having GTX 460.

    Yes, I thought you want to overclock. Higher FSB results in better memory performance, but the E5200 may top at 320-350, and the memory is a bit limiting.
    We can try 333MHz 2.5-4.12GHz if the CPU can handle 333MHz FSB.
    Basically CPU frequency = FSB x CPU Ratio, and RAM frequency = FSB x SMM(System Memory Multiplier). We will try to keep RAM at a bit over DDR-800 or less, and CPU as much as safe voltage and temps allow.

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