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    Default GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Hello all,

    With some help from this board, I overclocked my Q9450 to 3.2 last year. The machine was running fine until last week.

    Now, when I play graphic intensive games, the games get laggy and stuttering. So I first tested out my HD6850 and its' temp only goes to 50c during game play. However, after 5-10 minutes, the 0# Core goes almost to 70c and stays (from Core Temp .99.8)

    I also ran Memtest 4.00 and found no errors on my RAM.

    I built it about 3 years ago and started to over clock last year (maybe 2 years).

    Do the Q9450 tend to have a short life span? I also noticed they are not in stock anymore, and the places that have them are even more expensive than I paid 3 years ago.

    Any suggestions?

    Here are my settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.21 Ghz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 401 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................4
    tRFC...........................................52
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.25

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.30

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.50

    CPU Referen.…………....0.76V*.......: <<< [Auto]

    CPU Reference2………,,0.760V*.......:<<< [AUTO]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.200
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Sttuter and lag are from my experience related to memory issues.
    Though tRD(Static tRead Value in BIOS, Performance Level in MemSet) 9 is not much at 400MHz DD-1066.
    70c is not too much for the CPU, is it with the stock cooler or other?

    Please post a screen capture of MemSet main and SPD(click spd) windows, and exact part number of the memory.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Chike,

    Thanks for the quick response.

    The Cooler is in my sig: Tuniq Tower 120. The fan has been set to about halfway.

    Also, I haven't changed any settings or added any more hardware- it just started happening.

    Finally, I did run one test thru MemTest 4.00. Should I run multiple test and let it run for a few hours? would that identify if the memory starts overheating?

    Thanks
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    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    tRFC 52 is low for 1066 when the default is 54.
    I suggest leaving advanced timing all auto, and then try to lower tRD to 8 or 7.
    You can then lower tRFC a bit and see if it gives you any performance gain.
    Compare memory performance before and after those changes.
    You can use MaxxMEM² - PreView or any other memory benchmark.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    70c seems a bit hot to me at 3.21 overclock.


    perhaps u could clear a couple of things.

    1.Is the system exactly as it was and the only change is a new higher temp on one of the cores?
    2.the cpu cooler fan is set halfway?.Is that fan speed?.if a core is at 70c the fan should be running at or near full speed.
    What are the other core temps and the main cpu temp reading?
    its possible a lot of heat is drifiting up from the gx card to the memory/nb and cpu.

    However if it was me and this 70c is a new development ,I would check and reseat the cooler,just in case the thermal compound has dried out/was applied too thicklyand has developed hotspots over time.

    Try and pull the cooler off without twisting the heatsink,see if the compound coverage is thin and even.
    Like its better to have say the extreme corners of the cpu with no compund at all on them than compund squeezed out over the edges.
    Thats what id check anyway from the symptoms u describe.
    You will of course need some methanol and cotton buds or alcohol wiprs from a drugstore to clean off all the old thermal compund+ fresh thermal compund if your original supply is used up/dried out.

    I ran/run my q8400at 4ghz/3.8ghz,different board of course ,and Im not sure what you mean about fan set halfway but that temp at 3.21 would seem v hi unless I was burn testing on a very hot day.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Is your video card's memory overclocked? GPU speed? Memory speed? Voltages?
    Newer video cards will automatically lower their memory speeds if they detect memory errors when the memory speeds are too high.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    tRFC 52 is low for 1066 when the default is 54.
    I suggest leaving advanced timing all auto, and then try to lower tRD to 8 or 7.
    You can then lower tRFC a bit and see if it gives you any performance gain.
    Compare memory performance before and after those changes.
    You can use MaxxMEM² - PreView or any other memory benchmark.
    Chike,

    Thanks- Here is what I did:
    Dropped CPU clock Skew=0
    Dropped MCH Clock Skew=0
    Dropped Static tRead value =7
    left tRFC at 52

    Here are my before and after pics:GA-EP45-DS3R &amp; Q9450 Overheating-maxxmem2_j1837_before-jpg
    Last edited by Weaves; 06-15-2011 at 07:58 AM. Reason: add pic
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    GA-EP45-DS3R &amp; Q9450 Overheating-maxxmem2_71511_after-jpg

    Any more hints to get even better performance is appreciated.
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    70c seems a bit hot to me at 3.21 overclock.


    perhaps u could clear a couple of things.

    1.Is the system exactly as it was and the only change is a new higher temp on one of the cores?
    2.the cpu cooler fan is set halfway?.Is that fan speed?.if a core is at 70c the fan should be running at or near full speed.
    What are the other core temps and the main cpu temp reading?
    its possible a lot of heat is drifiting up from the gx card to the memory/nb and cpu.

    However if it was me and this 70c is a new development ,I would check and reseat the cooler,just in case the thermal compound has dried out/was applied too thicklyand has developed hotspots over time.

    Try and pull the cooler off without twisting the heatsink,see if the compound coverage is thin and even.
    Like its better to have say the extreme corners of the cpu with no compund at all on them than compund squeezed out over the edges.
    Thats what id check anyway from the symptoms u describe.
    You will of course need some methanol and cotton buds or alcohol wiprs from a drugstore to clean off all the old thermal compund+ fresh thermal compund if your original supply is used up/dried out.

    I ran/run my q8400at 4ghz/3.8ghz,different board of course ,and Im not sure what you mean about fan set halfway but that temp at 3.21 would seem v hi unless I was burn testing on a very hot day.
    Kick,

    1) As far as I know the system was not changed.
    1a) I don't know what the temp of the core was before, so the 70 may be standard during game play.
    2) The Tuniq Tower CPU cooler has a turn knob on the fan that I manually control. The knob is turned so the fan is always on high.
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Q9450 Overheating

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Is your video card's memory overclocked? GPU speed? Memory speed? Voltages?
    Newer video cards will automatically lower their memory speeds if they detect memory errors when the memory speeds are too high.
    Profjim,

    I never overclocked the graphics card.
    Core Clock=750 (Max)
    Memory Clock=1000 (Max)
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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