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    Check out Windows 7 constantly crashing. Blue screen.STOP: 0X00000116 - Microsoft Answers for some excellent advice to help debug BSoD error messages. They provide links to free programs that will help you to easily scan the event logs and mini dumps for additional troubleshooting information. Ignore the references to Dell links in the thread.

    I hate it when someone posts all the information and screen-shots that we ask for, as it makes it much easier for us to see exactly what's going on and this saves a lot of time for you and us.

    Please post an IBT screen-shot that shows the results of a 5 loop test. This will give us a baseline benchmark with stock settings. The difference in GFlops scores for each loop can be a good indicator if CPU Vcore is too low, even though the test completes without errors. This will be important when you start to overclock your system.
    Wow, many thanks for all your hard work on this
    Comments like this make it much easier to help out.
    In many threads the OP seldom shows any sign of appreciation. Don't send praise, send money

    Do you want to stay with your current stock settings for a short while, or would you like to overclock your system to 3.20GHz? If you want to o/c now, we'll need to make a few bios changes.

    Are you familiar with saving and loading bios profiles?
    You will need to do this as you overclock and tweak. You can save up to 8 separate bios profiles and you can replace any existing saved profile with a different profile. Saving bios profiles will make it much easier for you to revert back to one of the test or stable profiles if/when your stress tests fail or your system gets into a boot-loop. The mobo user manual briefly describes saving and load bios profiles. This information should be on or near page 38. Ask away if you have any questions about saving and using different profiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    for some excellent advice to help debug BSoD error messages.
    Thanks, will do. Have windbg installed and know how to load the right symbols, just didn't get around to it this time.

    I hate it when someone posts all the information and screen-shots that we ask for, as it makes it much easier for us to see exactly what's going on and this saves a lot of time for you and us.
    Erm...

    Please post an IBT screen-shot
    Whoops, missed that one! Attached now.

    Don't send praise, send money
    Where do I send the money? PM me the details. Thanks.

    Do you want to stay with your current stock settings for a short while, or would you like to overclock your system to 3.20GHz?
    I will stay with it for the week, as I will only have time to tinker during the weekend so might as well observe the stability til then.

    Are you familiar with saving and loading bios profiles?
    You will need to do this as you overclock and tweak.
    No, haven't done it before. Will check out the manual.

    I notice there's a feature labelled "Save BIOS to disk" - useful?
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    OK, I'll post the 3.20GHz bios changes later in the week.
    I was kidding about sending money, a case of a certain UK made stout ale would be nice, but the freight charges would be a bit much.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alf928 View Post
    I hate it when someone posts all the information and screen-shots that we ask for, as it makes it much easier for us to see exactly what's going on and this saves a lot of time for you and us.
    Erm...
    Whatsa matter, you didn't understand my sarcasm?

    Saving you bios to disk will save the current bios, current settings and all saved profiles.
    This is a very useful feature. If you need to restore the current bios version and profiles, QFlash will let you load the saved copy of bios back to your system when the saved copy is in a FAT12, FAT16 or FAT32 partition, such as a floppy or USB drive. QFlash won't "find" the file if it's in an NTFS partition.
    I name the saved copy EP45-mxx.Fz, where m = month, xx = year and Fz = the bios version, such as "F10".
    For the month, October = A, November = B, or December = C.
    I do it this way so that I can save multiple bios files in a single folder.

    I hope you have a stable week.

    With Prime95, I hope you had Round Off Checking enabled.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - memory issues

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    OK, I'll post the 3.20GHz bios changes later in the week.
    That would be great, many thanks and much appreciated

    I was kidding about sending money, a case of a certain UK made stout ale would be nice, but the freight charges would be a bit much.
    lol, you're out of luck there unless it's available down under. Then again, freight charges as you mention ;-)

    Saving your bios to disk...This is a very useful feature
    Cool, will keep this in mind.

    I hope you have a stable week.
    Thank you, so far so good :)

    With Prime95, I hope you had Round Off Checking enabled.
    No, I hadn't. So ran through all of the tests again today with it enabled and no issues either.
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    Prime95 "rounding errors" are very common, and if you don't have "Round Off Checking" enabled (i.e. this option does NOT have a check mark), I think that Prime95 ignores all rounding errors and the worker thread that had this error will continue to run. Glad to hear that your system is still stable. I'll post new 3.20GHz bios settings Thursday night.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - memory issues

    If you haven't already saved your current bios settings as a profile, do so before making any changes.
    For 3.20GHz use the settings from post #56 with the following changes (colored red):

    Code:
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------- : [8X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------- : [+0.0] 
    CPU Frequency -------------- : 3208MHz ( 401x8.0)
    
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ------- : [401] <-- some have problems when this is set to 400
    
    System Memory Multiplier ------- : [2.00B]
    
    CPU Vcore ----------- 1.25000V -- : [1.25000V] <-- one or two clicks higher might be needed
    If there are Memtest86+ errors you might need to try:
    System Memory Multiplier ------- : [2.00D]
    Static tRead Value ------------- : [8] <-- for both memory channels; A & B

    Repeat the Memtest86+ #5 test for 10 loops, followed by the default test for 2 - 3 (or more) loops. It shouldn't be necessary to run the full loop test overnight. When you boot into windows, create another screen-shot similar to the one you created in post #57. Repeat your IBT and Prime95 tests and post the improved IBT results. Run the Prime95 small and large FFT tests for at least 3 hours.
    Don't forget to stress test BF3 for several hours if all of the other tests complete without errors.

    If your system is stable for several days with the 2.00B System Memory Multiplier try the following:
    System Memory Multiplier ------- : [2.40B]
    This will run your memory at 962MHz and you will need to repeat your stress test regimen. This will help determine if your system is stable with memory speeds higher than 800 - 850MHz. With these higher memory speeds, you might need to make some additional bios tweaks.

    Any questions?

    Forgot to add:
    If the 962MHz test settings prove to be stable, we can try:
    3.60GHz (8x450) with memory = 900MHz (2x450)
    otherwise we can try:
    3.40GHz (8.5x401) with memory = 802MHz (2x401)

    We will optimize your memory timings once you've reached your "final" overclock goal.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - memory issues

    profJim,

    Many thanks for your hard work again. Looks like I may have some spare time tomorrow, so will give the OC a go.

    Regarding saving the BIOS to disk, just to confirm - it's using the QFLASH utility am I right? I've previously used it to flash new BIOS versions, so I assume using the save feature will write the current BIOS and settings to disk.

    One last item. On the BIOS settings from my post (#56), the last item "Legacy USB Storage Detect" mentions to disable it for OC'ing. What issue would it causing leaving it on as I have my Memtest86+ bootable on a USB disk, and I believe may also affect QFLASH detecting my USB drive should I use it to store my saved BIOS settings?
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    Default Re: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - memory issues

    I always use QFlash to save my current bios version and profiles.
    Some have reported overclocking "issues" when Legacy USB Storage Detect is enabled.
    I have it enabled on my overclocked systems with no problems.

    Glad to hear that you're still alive ;)

    edit:
    QFlash will only read from or write to FAT file partitions.
    I have a folder of all my saved bios files in an NTFS partition, but I would need to copy a saved bios file to a floppy or FAT formatted usb drive to be able to let QFlash access it. I've never tried using a cdrom drive.
    Last edited by profJim; 11-16-2011 at 06:06 PM.
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    Thanks for that. Will report back when things have occurred :-)
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    Hi profJim,

    So set up the initial settings as follows:
    Code:
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------- : [8X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------- : [+0.0] 
    CPU Frequency -------------- : 3208MHz ( 401x8.0)
    
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ------- : [401] <-- some have problems when this is set to 400
    
    System Memory Multiplier ------- : [2.00B]
    
    CPU Vcore ----------- 1.25000V -- : [1.25000V] <-- one or two clicks higher might be needed
    Saved the BIOS and the PC rebooted. Nothing came on and it rebooted again. Then again, and finally came back up. I went straight into the BIOS then and accessed the M.I.T section, which displayed the following message (in red):

    Code:
    The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking or changes of voltages. Last settings in this page may not coincide with current H/W states.
    I've rolled back the changes above for now.
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