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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    The quad heatsink is also taller than the duo's so this definately can be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax2911 View Post
    Ya like right now there is only one selection that will run in P95. This test produces maximum heat, power consumption and some ram tested (In place large FFTs)this program is on my desktop(separate DL) The one that is in the my documents folder is the one that has the online account. It automatically runs online and DLs its work. I simply wanted to be conservative in testing is all. I was told that the CPU cooler is not cooling all that well maybe due to it being a stock intel cooler. What if by chance I got the Core2 duo cooler on the Quad CPU? Would that cause a cooling problem??
    To chike the whole cooler is aluminum(I know cuz I have a cooler master on my old 8i945P mobo-copper core).
    Well I'm not sure what happened, but you do not have to run online at all with it, and you don't have to have it stuck on one test setting either, default startup test is blend. Download another copy and delete those you have.

    As for the coolers, when you just say generic core 2 duo vs quad it's hard to say. As Chike mentioned some of them have a much thicker core than the others, so if you want us to advise you for sure we need to know which exact CPU the cooler you are using came from. And as mentioned, no matter what, if you are having heat issues then CPU cooler origin doesn't matter - order a new better cool as soon as you can. Intel stock coolers are terrible anyway, barely good enough for stock speeds.

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    Well I'm not sure what happened, but you do not have to run online at all with it, and you don't have to have it stuck on one test setting either, default startup test is blend. Download another copy and delete those you have.

    As for the coolers, when you just say generic core 2 duo vs quad it's hard to say. As Chike mentioned some of them have a much thicker core than the others, so if you want us to advise you for sure we need to know which exact CPU the cooler you are using came from. And as mentioned, no matter what, if you are having heat issues then CPU cooler origin doesn't matter - order a new better cool as soon as you can. Intel stock coolers are terrible anyway, barely good enough for stock speeds.
    Downloaded directly from Mersenne.org v266 zip and deleted old one.
    As far as the coolers besides the stock coolers I have a few others. One is a cooler master for a P4 which may or not be suitable. I also ordered a second Mugen2 way back about a year or so. I tried to replace it some time ago but could not unplug the main elec connection to the mobo. Yes I know there is a clip on the connector FYI it just would not pull out.... So, instead of breaking anything I just stepped back to think and then got busy with other things. Thats how the missing mobo hold downs accident played out. Sure wish things went a little smoother around here Maybe I should be glad I did not break the mobo and have to order another one. Anyway installing the mugen2 (#2) will take about a day or two for me due to my workload. This will be the best solution all things considered.
    Update: Prime95 worked out of the box after DL fresh copy from Mersenne.org Made sure to choose the correct version for XP and 32 bit OS. There is even a DL for linux too and FreeBSD if I choose to run that OS again.

    One thing I just learned is the electric bill may be increased if I use this program too much. Will monitor and set time limits for this test session.

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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 03-19-2012 at 03:25 AM. Reason: sp and gr
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Even with Prime95 total system power won't be over or not much over 200 watts, so it's like 2 light bulbs. If you run prime 24/7 for the mersenne searrch then it may be a concern, not a few days of testing.

    I had also hard time disconnecting the 24 pin power cobbector before, but if you persistant enough it wil l come out eventually, just be careful not to break anything or to tear off the wires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Even with Prime95 total system power won't be over or not much over 200 watts, so it's like 2 light bulbs. If you run prime 24/7 for the mersenne searrch then it may be a concern, not a few days of testing.
    I had also hard time disconnecting the 24 pin power connector before, but if you are persistant enough it will come out eventually, just be careful not to break anything or to tear off the wires.
    This will receive some measure of patience from me, to do. As, I said it will take a few days so, I will use my other backup PC until then.
    As far as the overheating problem I am now suspecting a new antivirus program recently installed. They just rewrote the code for this new AV program and there are some complaints in their forum. I am just reviewing some of the complaints, but some are saying NOD32 v5 is causing slowness and conflicts with programs. But mainly, I am taking responsibility for not making sure all of NOD32 scanners are disabled, sorry for any confusion. Searching the internet for more information on this issue. My main worry is, I did not completely disable the AV's scanning while P95 works.
    Also ran P95 with reduced AV settings this afternoon. I found there was a reduction in temps by 2-3 C Or the reduction could be from the really cold temps we have had here. P95 ran for about three hours with reduced temps and I did further disable NOD 32 for this recent test.
    Inside Temps are about 65.3-66.2 F right now from digital thermometer.
    UPDATE Will post a Screenie of the advanced settings in my NOD32 if need be to fully illustrate this issue. I have also seen that I have a section entitled Threat Sense Engine Parameter Setup. This section may detect the behavior of suspected viruses I think, there are several setting there as well. Searching for some information on all these settings that are supposed to protect me.
    OK, enough talk, I will post a thread in the NOD32 forum seeking help. Here is the main link FYI...
    http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=88

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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 03-19-2012 at 10:38 AM. Reason: add info
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Nice to see you got prime working for you now without having to use it online!

    Hold the clip on the 24 pin, and wiggle from side to side, that often helps them come out easier when they get stuck.

    I use V5 Eset Smart Security, no issues here with it slowing down anything, might just be the AV only version? If it's not slowing things down for you then you don't have to worry about it, and it's not going to cause any heat issues either way, so no one should be worrying about it like that.

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    Understood, I guess I was just a little worried that there may be another reason for the problem. Guess I will find out if it is the wrong cooler real soon....thanks
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    It could be the AV version only, and not affect the Smart Security version, or it could be a conflict with some other software on those affected users computers, it's hard to say?

    We use V5 on three computers here and none of them have any issues with it, so it's not the software itself, or at least not the Smart Security version anyway.

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    Hmm seems to be working now....New temps after I have installed the other Mugen2 I had on hand. This is a bigger pic so it may be easier to read. Ya I know about the other web hosting sites for Pix but this seems to work for me.
    As for the Coolers I did put the coolermaster on for a while and got some improvement. However I think my problem was a small Cooler combined with incorrect setting in the BIOS. The setting is for the fan managment and would not adjust speed till CPU temp hit 66C. That temp is where the temp stayed due to all the factors.
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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 03-26-2012 at 04:36 AM.
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Good to see you have the mugen installed, temps are reasonable and you're good to go OC.
    Just make some baseline benchmark we can compare to later.
    LinX with 2048MB, 5 runs will do, record avg/mac Flops.
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