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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Memtest86+ v4.20 is the current latest version and you should be using this version for testing.
    We need ongoing updates to best help you.

    If a test fails or has problems, post a brief update with the settings you used and detail what the problems were.
    This way we know exactly what problems you've encountered. Error details are important!!!
    You don't need to post the full bios settings each time, but we need to know what new settings you're using for the followup tests.

    Once you have a "reasonably" stable setup, we can suggest how you can cut some corners with somewhat shorter stress tests.
    It wastes your time and ours if we have to keep asking for more detailed test information.
    We can't offer good suggestions if we only have part of the information/details that we need.
    Tried running Lin X last night but had a beeping noise when the temps got too high (runtime 3min 22 secs). I caved and stopped the test. reran Lin X this morn and made sure AV was off and same result beeping.(but at least it ran).
    Prime 95 on the other hand I had trouble getting it to run most time except for a few times. I think I had to choose a integer for one test that ran and last night it caused an error,shown below. Could not get P95 to run this morn was short on time.
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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 02-20-2012 at 10:04 PM. Reason: sp
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    What core temps you had with LinX? For QUAD CPU run 2048MB.
    Next time check the more information if you get such an error.
    Can we have your full settings(no mistakes please)?

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    What core temps you had with LinX? For QUAD CPU run 2048MB.
    Next time check the more information if you get such an error.
    Can we have your full settings(no mistakes please)?
    Beeping started at 70 C and I realized it was due to the warning temp set in the BIOS. I reset warning temp to 80 C I tried to set at 2048 and got a note that max was 1999 for This test. The prime 95 error may be due to my not setting up an account till tonight for online testing. I thought I did not have to setup account to test.
    Memtest will run now with no errors at all in both tests.
    Lin X is running while I type this with a temp(max) of 73-74 C on core 0 , other cores are lower. I would like to start setting some of the BIOS settings that are on auto or will this be done later?
    Prime 95 is now running with online account. Max temp is 71 after about 5 minutes. Maybe I will set alarm for 1 am to check it then.
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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.33GHz

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 MHz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time.........5...............:5
    tRCD ..........................7...............:5
    tRP'............................7............... :5
    tRAS...........................24...............:1 5

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................aut o
    tWTR..........................................auto
    tWR............................................aut o
    tRFC...........................................aut o
    tRTP...........................................aut o
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:auto
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 6 for both Channel A and B
    6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << 1.2
    If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore. Auto is fine if not overclocking
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.5
    << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65. Auto is fine if not overclocking

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: auto
    <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.1<<
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; auto<<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: auto<<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: NOT AVAIL<<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: NOT AVAIL<<< Leave
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: auto<<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: auto<<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: auto <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: NOT AVAIL

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    Attached Images Attached Images GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200-linxfeb20-jpg 
    Last edited by MadMax2911; 02-21-2012 at 02:07 PM. Reason: add info
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    Lets begin with your temps, they are way high for stock settings, Prime95 should never exceed 65c.
    It sounds a bit odd though that Prime95 temps so close to LinX temps, normally LinX is 10c+ higher than Prime95, are you sure it's 71c and not 61c?
    Have you removed and reinstalled the CPU cooler without re-applying thermal paste, or if you did what paste do you use?

    You don't need any account to use Prime95 for stress testing.
    If Prime95 fail, set MCH Core to 1.16v and test again, keep increasing up to 1.24v while still failing.
    If you know the FFT size that fail, you can save time and customize the test to run this FFT only by setting both min and max FFT sizes to that value.
    If last failing value pass for 2 times, run normal(non-customized) blend again.

    Have you tried contacting Mushkin yet?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    I have never had a Prime95 account and have tested with Prime95 for years.
    Static tRead Value (aka tRD) = 6 is the lowest I could use at 333MHz with my EP45-UD3P.
    tRD = 5 wouldn't boot or was unstable @ 333MHz or higher.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Lets begin with your temps, they are way high for stock settings, Prime95 should never exceed 65c.
    It sounds a bit odd though that Prime95 temps so close to LinX temps, normally LinX is 10c+ higher than Prime95, are you sure it's 71c and not 61c?
    Have you removed and reinstalled the CPU cooler without re-applying thermal paste, or if you did what paste do you use?
    You don't need any account to use Prime95 for stress testing.
    If Prime95 fail, set MCH Core to 1.16v and test again, keep increasing up to 1.24v while still failing.
    If you know the FFT size that fail, you can save time and customize the test to run this FFT only by setting both min and max FFT sizes to that value.
    If last failing value pass for 2 times, run normal(non-customized) blend again.
    Have you tried contacting Mushkin yet?
    Prime 95 ran all night with online account feature turned on. Its strange though as I have ran prime 95 before without account I believe(could also be that I did not have it s setting correct) I have a ScreenShot of temps for you.
    last time I tried to install a modified cooler I reapplied whatever was at hand at the time. Could be paste from mushkin or maybe some off-brand that I bought at PC store.
    Yes I have a SS of prime 95 Fails too. I wont bore you with SS that you do not request, however. No I have not contacted Muskin yet, so far I have idea that problems may have been caused by setting the strap to 400 and have wrong setting elsewhere, but not confirmed yet. Everything seems ok now except for prime 95 failure and temps as you say. I have not tried to OC again yet as I am still testing.
    Hi Professor Jim Thanks for the info and all your help, I really appreciate it. :)
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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 02-21-2012 at 09:12 PM. Reason: add
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    Well you do have your MCH Core at 1.22v(which was 1.1 in your previous post BTW) that may have helped stability. You can try to lower it if you wish but it's not too important.
    Whats are idle temps and in what is the room temperature.
    Even if you going to OC by a little they must be lowered at least 5c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Well you do have your MCH Core at 1.22v(which was 1.1 in your previous post BTW) that may have helped stability. You can try to lower it if you wish but it's not too important.
    Whats are idle temps and in what is the room temperature.
    Even if you going to OC by a little they must be lowered at least 5c.
    Hope the idle temps are good, in this screenshot. I am cooking right now so may be a little high? Will look for my room thermometer ASAP. Well I am open to suggestions about lowering temps. I do have a smaller fan that comes with Mugen2 cooler for the northbridge I think. Just how to attach is the problem. I used velcro on the UD3LR. I will look at airflow and check fan operations too. Most likely its the stock cooler and thermal paste as you mentioned, cuz I have at least 3 case fans on this tower (one intake one exhaust and one side cover fan). One other thing is prime 95 is not downloading from some sites and I also could not DL from Tweaktown the other day as well maybe they are changing P95 versions?
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    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    I have just downloaded Prime95(both 32 & 64 bit versions) from TT, no problem.
    Temps are a bit high for idle.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R and Core 2 Quad Q8200

    Make sure that Round Off Checking is enabled.

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