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    Unhappy Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    Hi everybody

    I first posted this on the Gigabyte technical support thread but after given some advice to start my own thread, I decided to do just that.

    I need some advice on a bad bios flash on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Rev. 2.0, I flashed it the F9 bios using a floppy disk, according to q-flash utility it all went smooth. On restart all it did was go to to a black screen, I get no video, nothing except spinning fans. I did the bios flash in haste(I know stupid), should of researched more but I was really frustrated with the damn computer. I was getting lockups in video games and I thought updating the bios might help the problem, I already figured out that it wasn't the motherboard but the video card, it was overheating, even though the temperatures read normal.

    I read the thread "A How to ~ Q Flash Guide" by Lsdmeasap, after bricking the motherboard unfortunately, I noticed that flashing the bios in these board is more involved than just flashing with floppy disk and restarting the computer. The guide has a section about trying to recover from a bad flash but i'm not sure it applies to my board because it talks about an award bios file and I don't see a award bios file on the download from the gigabyte website.

    I have tried clearing the cmos, removing cmos battery for a whole day and it's still dead. I also tried a blind flash but it didn't work, I don't think I was doing it right anyway.

    What are my option guys. thanks

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    First you can try a quick CMOS clear, just disconnect/switch off the PSU, discharge the capacitors by pressing power button once, and short the CLR_CMOS pins for a a few seconds, with a metal object like screwdriver or a jumper.
    Next try a long CMOS clear, with the buterry removed and the pins shorted for 30 minutes.
    If this does not help, try to leave it that way for the night

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    First you can try a quick CMOS clear, just disconnect/switch off the PSU, discharge the capacitors by pressing power button once, and short the CLR_CMOS pins for a a few seconds, with a metal object like screwdriver or a jumper.
    Next try a long CMOS clear, with the buterry removed and the pins shorted for 30 minutes.
    If this does not help, try to leave it that way for the night
    I already tried that, no dice.

    Anybody else have any others suggestions.

    thanks

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    I don't know if you've read the following thread on how to recover a bricked MB, but if you haven't, it's worth a read:

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ng-failed.html

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    The "How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed" thread won't help because his motherboard has only one bios chip.

    I suggest that you try the minimalist boot approach in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post301218, post #2. If possible, "dumb down" your system by using generic components, such as a ps2 keyboard and a vga monitor cable. It's possible that there was a coincidental failure, where one of your other hardware components failed after your bios flash completed.

    Do NOT add or remove any hardware while your power supply is plugged in.

    When you did the 24 hour cmos clear, was the power supply unplugged, motherboard battery removed and the CLR_CMOS pins jumpered, all at the same time?
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    The "How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed" thread won't help because his motherboard has only one bios chip.

    I suggest that you try the minimalist boot approach in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post301218, post #2. If possible, "dumb down" your system by using generic components, such as a ps2 keyboard and a vga monitor cable. It's possible that there was a coincidental failure, where one of your other hardware components failed after your bios flash completed.

    Do NOT add or remove any hardware while your power supply is plugged in.

    When you did the 24 hour cmos clear, was the power supply unplugged, motherboard battery removed and the CLR_CMOS pins jumpered, all at the same time?
    The motherboard had no power supply attached to it and the battery was removed, but I didn't have the CLR_CMOS pin jumpered, when I did the CMOS clear thing. I will try it the way you suggested and I will see what happens tomorrow.

    I have tried the minimalist approach, I did it with a monitor with a vga cable but I had to use a dvi adapter. All the motherboard had connected to it was cpu, psu, memory, video card, floppy disk drive, monitor and a ps2 keyboard. Should a hard drive be hooked up to it while trying the minimalist approach?



    Thanks for the help

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    Don't connect a hard drive.
    Your goal is to be able to boot into the bios, load Optimized Bios settings, then save settings (F10) and exit.
    Then you will boot back into the bios and make any required bios settings for your regular setup.
    I would temporarily disconnect your floppy drive for now.
    Be sure to provide a detailed description when you try to boot again, such as boot loop, which fans spin up, etc.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    profjim-I cleared the CMOS the way you suggested and it's still dead.

    At this point the motherboard is outside the computer case, I have it on top of a piece of cardboard. When I boot it up by touching the two power pins together, this is what it does. Fan on cpu and video card start spinning, light on monitor stays amber, no beeps from speaker, It doesn't attempt to access the floppy disk. It pretty much does nothing but spin the fans.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L Bad bios flash, need advice

    At this point, the only option that I see is to test with different hardware to make sure that the problems isn't due to faulty:
    power supply
    video card & cable
    memory

    Is your power supply's ATX_12V 4-pin connector properly plugged in to the motherboard?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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