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    Default Re: Maxing out with an EP45-UD3P, Q9650 and 8GB RAM

    The worker failed and kept running?
    You can try with either of the sizes that failed.
    Try with CPU Ratio 8.5.

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    Default Re: Maxing out with an EP45-UD3P, Q9650 and 8GB RAM

    No worker 2 stopped the rest kept running.

    There's some definite fine tuning needed, I am continuously failing on the same workers: 2 (960K), 1 (800K), 2 (448K), 2 (560K), 1 (480K), 2 (384K), 2 (720K), 1 (720K) and most recently 1 (400K).

    I'll drop the CPU ratio and continue to tinker with the refs. Any more suggestions?

    Also, I wasn't able to get ET6 going. Installed it but when I launch the application, it doesn't show up though it shows up in task manager :/
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    It's large FFTs so likely memory/bus related.
    Lowering CPU ratio sometimes eliminate the problem, I am not sure why but may be due to the wider CPU cycle, that asists the GTL for a bit longer.
    Vcore sometimes help with those kind of problems, and the clock skews too.

    Have you tried a lower, or much higher VTT?

    What I would first do is find the optimal voltage for the memory at lower CPU and bus frequencies where they would not be an issue.
    The way I have foud mine was increasing memory clock until I got errors with memtest86+(tests 1,2, or 5) then changed memory voltage and test again.

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    Click on the ET6 icon in the task bar to open it.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
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    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    I for one think you should try getting it stable at a lower OC 1st. Say 9X425 then move up higher. Your NB may be getting too hot can you put a fan on it? Let me know if you want to dial in lower 1st. BTW you never said if you have ever had it stable at optimized defaults. If you can't get that stable you sure not going to get an OC stable methinks.

    Wibujo may be on to something about the ram can't vouch for the D strap though.
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    Just for fun here is a screen shots of the diffrence between 3.91 and 4.1 GHz wot a .19 GHz change or from 461 to a 483 FSB. Note temps and voltage changes for very minimal gain. Note: For my system neways...
    Here's 3.91 since I can only attach 1 file continued next post.
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    Continued...

    Now as you see I can do just as well with a 2.40B strap compaired to a 2.00D strap with much less voltage, temps and 1 GFlops less..Is that worth it? Dunno you decide.

    As a side note a 2.5A strap may work well for you.
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    Yeah, some things are just not meant to be, I'd go even lower to 444MHz FSB, 50MHz CPY freq. may just do the difference.

    EDIT: do you have any benchmark results from the ASUS board to compare with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    It's large FFTs so likely memory/bus related.
    Lowering CPU ratio sometimes eliminate the problem, I am not sure why but may be due to the wider CPU cycle, that asists the GTL for a bit longer.
    Vcore sometimes help with those kind of problems, and the clock skews too.

    Have you tried a lower, or much higher VTT?

    What I would first do is find the optimal voltage for the memory at lower CPU and bus frequencies where they would not be an issue.
    The way I have foud mine was increasing memory clock until I got errors with memtest86+(tests 1,2, or 5) then changed memory voltage and test again.
    I'm currently working on the vtts now.

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Click on the ET6 icon in the task bar to open it.
    There was nothing there to click.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conners View Post
    I for one think you should try getting it stable at a lower OC 1st. Say 9X425 then move up higher. Your NB may be getting too hot can you put a fan on it? Let me know if you want to dial in lower 1st. BTW you never said if you have ever had it stable at optimized defaults. If you can't get that stable you sure not going to get an OC stable methinks.

    Wibujo may be on to something about the ram can't vouch for the D strap though.
    I was just looking over my past notes I did run at optimized speeds before. No issues, or at least I didn't document anything regarding any issues. I also have baseline settings at 425x9 using the 2.66D strap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Yeah, some things are just not meant to be, I'd go even lower to 444MHz FSB, 50MHz CPY freq. may just do the difference.

    EDIT: do you have any benchmark results from the ASUS board to compare with?
    The P5LD2? I've yet to run any benchmarks on it.

    I feel like I'm close so I'm going to continue to forge ahead at this point. I didn't get anywhere last time with changing the straps though I was sloppy with the settings but will certainly be looking into that as the next option.

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    Default Re: Maxing out with an EP45-UD3P, Q9650 and 8GB RAM

    Many users report that starting ET6 does not open an application window.
    Once you start ET6, there should be an ET6 icon in the task bar.
    You can then open ET6 by clicking on the ET6 icon.
    You might need to set "show hidden icons" in your task bar.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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