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    Default RAM advice for Z77X-UD5H/i5 3570K

    Decided to build my a new main desktop. I'm not much of a computer guy, but I have a friend who is a professional, and helps me sometimes. Tried an Intel DH77KC with i5 3570K w 2X8GB 1600MHz Crucial ram sticks- wouldn't even start at all (3-beep code: "memory error"). Things got a little better with 2 X 4GB 1600MHz Corsair XMS3, but decided to swap it out with Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H per advise of Microcenter salesman (still using the Intel i5 3570K). I really prefer the Gigabyte board, but still similar problems. Was able to get it up an running by removing slot 2 memory module. While running, displayed A0 debug code: "IDE initialization is started". Was able to upgrade the BIOS from 5 to 8, install the important drivers, and do all W7 updates. I got brave and tried re-installing the second 4GB memory module and the USB 3.0 front panel port that came bundled with the board, connected to USB 3.0 "02" header. Tries to start, but gets to "start error" window, and Windows can't fix it either. Debug code is 62: "installation of the PCH runtime services". Computer is on, monitor is black, and loops if I reset. Even though ram is 1600MHz, never saw it over 1333MHz in BIOS windows. I started from scratch about 15 times between these two boards, reformatting, and installing windows, and at least I can say I've learned alot about computers. I have a strong hunch that ram may be part of the problem, so I'm looking for advice.

    I originally planned to max out the ram (4 X 8GB), so I won't be throwing away 16GB of ram at some point in the future. But I'm beginning to get the idea that there's not alot of compatible 8GM 1600MHz modules. In the Gigabyte recommended module page, there is only one: Corsair CMZ32GX3M4X1600C10. This is a kit with 4 modules for a little over $200 at Newegg. Been thinking I should go ahead with 4 X 4GB. I get the feeling I'm asking for trouble trying to use the full specs of the motherboard.

    Was hoping somebody had a similar setup, and found ram that worked really nicely, and could advise before I bought new modules. I'm of the opinion that I need to get a set of four matched for dual channel. Do I also need to go with 1333 MHz to make things easier for the board and have more availability of recommended ram? The board claims to support 1600 MHz.

    The most complicated thing I do is pretty large graphic file handling in Photoshop and other photo file integrating programs. Also use intense RC aircraft flight simulator. Have an invedia video card but not installed yet. My setup is very simple: mobo, DVD drive, 2 RAID 1 mirrored WD 2TB Caviar Green 6.0 Gb/s HDD's, USB 3.0 front panel running off header #2 on mobo, Dell 21" LCD using DVI.

    I'm very excited about this build. Thanks in advance for help.

    Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H, i5 3570K, WD Caviar Greens.

    (This post is also submitted in the "memory" forum- posted before I noticed this forum)

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    Default Re: RAM advice for Z77X-UD5H/i5 3570K

    I personally use these Newegg.com - G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 and love them, 1.25Volts and no annoying large heatspreaders. They fit right under my NH-D14 so I could go to 16GB if I wanted no problem. If you go and populate all 4 dimms you may have to increase VCCSA(IMC) and/or VCCIO(VTT) (though probably the former) to stabilize things, but it shouldn't be difficult if required at all. It wouldn't be so much about the speed of the Ram 1333 vs 1600, but the fact that your pushing 16gb vs 8gb so it puts more stress on the IMC. (internal memory controller)

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    Default Re: RAM advice for Z77X-UD5H/i5 3570K

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    Do I need to adjust something if I use them at stock specs? Noticed voltage is 1.35.

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    shouldnt need to for stock 1600mhz @ 1.35v,they do sell them in 8gb sticks but they wont oc so well as the 4gb stick,smaller capacity sticks seem to oc better

    honestly you cant buy better memory for the price,they match the expensive 2133mhz memory kits for performance if overclocked
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

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    Default Re: RAM advice for Z77X-UD5H/i5 3570K

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    shouldnt need to for stock 1600mhz @ 1.35v,they do sell them in 8gb sticks but they wont oc so well as the 4gb stick,smaller capacity sticks seem to oc better

    honestly you cant buy better memory for the price,they match the expensive 2133mhz memory kits for performance if overclocked
    Just bought two sticks at Microcenter ($23.99)- installed one for now. Would not start Windows or allow access to BIOS or Q-Flash on startup running on main BIOS (not RAM's fault). Started fine on backup BIOS, but couldn't figure out how to restore main BIOS while starting or running on backup BIOS. Finally hit CMOS button on mobo (while on main BIOS), "restored to optimum", and was able to build. BIOS still v8. After driver installation, very slow. Let it sit overnight, and not bad in the morning. I had updated BIOS thru @BIOS a few days ago to 8. Saw in forums that BIOS flash thru @BIOS is NOT recommended. Considering roll-back to original BIOS (5) thru Q-Flash, and another build. I will check forums for BIOS recommendations. Do you know if it matters what version of BIOS I use while building? Much thanks, Kip...................

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    i dont think it matters,you might need to use slightly more dram voltage and cpu/vtt voltage for 2 sticks,could try 1.4v dram voltage and 1.10v cpu/vtt voltage,see if it boots up with 2 sticks
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

    Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
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    Default Re: RAM advice for Z77X-UD5H/i5 3570K

    Wazza300 and all:

    Did BIOS install thru BIOS window/USB stick. No problems seeing different BIOS versions on the generic USB stick. Went from BIOS 8 (installed thru @BIOS) to 7. Did another clean Windows build. Everything works great- even with extra RAM installed (8GB)- 2 X MV-3V4G3/US per your advice. Have not adjusted voltages yet. Running at 1600MHz. Thanks so much for great advice. Great forum.... looking forward to mods and learning from this forum. Kip.....................

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    I would oc the ram now, set speed to 2133mhz,set dram voltage to 1.55v,and set top four timings to 10,10,10,28 command rate 1t

    It should run fine on those settings,read through your mb manual on how to adjust those settings,if your happy at stock 1600mhz then that's fine,but that ram has huge potential
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

    Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
    Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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