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    Default Re: GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST

    Cpu-z memory speed = 420 MHz shows that your memory is running at 840MHz.
    Your screen-shots show the needed memory details, no need to look any further.
    It's often easiest to capture one screen-shot with several information windows at one time.
    It's best to group the windows close together and to remove the unneeded portions of the screen.
    Keeping the image width less than 1000 pixels will make it much easier to read the details.
    You can include multiple images in a single post when all the images are on the web and not on your computer.

    The Memset "SPD" or ">>" options aren't displayed because your motherboard uses Nvidia chipsets, not the more common Intel chipsets.
    It looks like your Dominator heatsink is the main cause of your sudden problems.
    My GeminII heatsink weighs 847 grams (without any installed fans) and my both of my systems had no problems for several yeas with this cooling setup.
    It's possible that the problem might be caused by one or more loose motherboard screws that secure it to the computer case.
    I've never heard of a problem like your system hiccups for several days when the seasons change.

    IBT and Linux are OK for preliminary quick and dirty stress testing and for verifying that the GFlops results are about right.
    Prime95 and HCI Memtest are my primary stress testing tools. OCCT and Orthos are also good.
    The windows bug in reporting incorrect cpu speeds is not limited to XP, I have the same issue with some other programs with win7.

    It's possible that your system's age is related to or causing your current problems.
    Then again, with the recent tweaks, it might be fine for a long time.
    Adding an ssd to my N650 motherboard has been a major improvement and it performs well with my (supported) E6850 cpu.
    If any or your ram needs to be replaced, it will be very expensive compared to current DDR3 memory prices.
    Check out the prices for upgrading to an Ivy Bridge system that meets you needs.
    SSD and DDR3 memory prices are very reasonable, but hard drive prices are still quite high and are now about 50% higher than they were before the floods in Thailand caused prices to increase 100%.

    It sounds like your system is stable now.
    Be sure to save your current bios settings as a saved bios profile as described in the mobo user manual.
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    Default Re: GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST

    Hi profJim,

    Once again thanks for all your input, hints and advice. I'm too tired to reply to all of it now, sorry. I'll try tomorrow but it's going to be a long day too. One thing I need to reply to, though:

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    It sounds like your system is stable now..
    The PC's been on all day; even though I wasn't here most of the time. It's still running Windows right now, without BSOD'ing on my rendering tasks; so that's the good news.

    The bad news: when I tried to get it out of hibernating this morning I heard the mobo beep; but it took way too long before it did that. Then ... nothing. I waited a few minutes; but nothing ever appeared on the screen, so I pressed the reset button. The drives spun up, I heard the beep, and the next thing I was presented with was the CMOS checksum error screen, and the grey menu asking me to select one of the saved BIOS profiles, or the "last config that worked". I selected the 3rd option, it reset, beep, POST, and the next thing I knew I was up and running Windows just fine.

    I wasn't expecting that little hiccup; but I haven't been able to try all of your "+0.1 V" recommendations either. And, in all honesty, this morning's little hiccup was much more acceptable than what I've been seeing here in the past three weeks!

    One thing I thought of this morning. Since you have the same mobo you may be able to explain this: why is it, you think (or know) that I don't always see the "dual BIOS" graphic (I believe it's yellow) on the Gigabyte logo screen, on startup? I saw it years ago, when I first installed this thing; and also a few days ago after putting the jumper on overnight. Now, a week or so later, I haven't seen it anymore... Any idea??

    Thanks,

    Erik

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    Default Re: GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST

    I think that you're referring to the default Gigabyte graphics logo versus the text information while posting.
    When you clear the bios, the settings are set to default values which includes the logo's graphic post screen.
    In the Advanced BIOS Features bios screen near the bottom of the settings, Full Screen LOGO Show defaults to Enabled.
    When this setting is changed to Disabled, the logo graphic startup screen is replaced with the text information while posting.

    When the bios is reset for any reason (e.g. clear CMOS or load XXXXX bios defaults), you need to reapply all of the bios settings that you've changed. Your wake from hibernation issue might be due to incorrect settings in the bios Power Management Setup sub-menu (page 45 in the user manual). Verify that the settings in this sub-menu are correct before randomly tweaking bios voltages.
    I won't hold my breath waiting for your reply, as it's clear you either like to play hard to get or you have a life outside of computer tweaking.

    Do NOT under any circumstances ever use the Gibabyte utility that lets you customize the boot screen with your own picture.
    I'm convinced that the GB marketing department dreamed this up to sell more motherboards.
    In years gone by, many motherboards were bricked by this program when everything didn't go right.
    Anyone who thinks that the dual bios setup never fails is in for a very rude surprise.
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    Default Re: GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    I think that you're referring to the default Gigabyte graphics logo versus the text information while posting.
    That is correct; but more particularly that the graphic logo changes. What I was trying to say is that sometimes on top of the graphic logo a small section in the top right hand corner of the screen also displays a "Dual BIOS" graphic. That, in all of these years, is something I've seen twice. Or three times, maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    I won't hold my breath waiting for your reply, as it's clear you either like to play hard to get or you have a life outside of computer tweaking.
    By all means: don't hold your breath. My apolgies when it comes to my tardiness regarding my replies. Once you get into a situation like mine, where not only you work 12 or more hours a day, have to do everything around the house, and take care of a badly handicapped wife who's condition keeps getting worse every day, then you'll understand why I'm "hard to get".

    Thanks for your help,

    Erik

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    Default Re: GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST

    You're welcome, glad to help out.
    I never boot with the logo enabled, I prefer to see that everything looks normal with the post messages.
    I'll be performing some graphics benchmarks with stock cpu and memory settings in a few days and I'll see if my N650 board has any issues with waking from sleep.
    No problem with being "hard to get", we're here to help.
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    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Hibernate works great with my N650 using win7.

    Waking from Hibernation takes about 30 seconds, about the same time as booting with my ssd.
    Waking from Sleep is instantaneous, but it's not working every time right now.
    I've never configured either of these options before but I'm going to try to get sleep working.
    I tested at stock cpu/ memory speeds and while overclocked, as well as with C1E& EIST enabled and disabled.
    I configured windows so that pressing the front panel on/off power switch will immediately enter hibernation.

    The attached picture shows my Power Management bios settings.

    GA-N650SLI-DS4 barely reaching POST-n650sli-ds4-power-management-setup-bios-screen-p1020766-crop-jpg
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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