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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    I'll keep you posted.
    Thanks for the warning

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Been testing for 6.5hrs now at 1.3375v, and its stable.....(bios didnt have a 1.3400v setting). Should I go lower or stay?

    I would like to put that other 2x1gb ram back in. What do you advise?

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    What was your previous cpu voltage that gave you a 0x124 BSOD?
    You could try splitting the difference between 1.33750 and the previous failed voltage.

    Using 2 x 2GB and 2 x 1GB of mixed memory brands might work, but it might take a lot of additional stress testing.
    MCH Core voltage might need to be increased up to 1.30 or 1.32 with additional memory.
    DRAM voltages might also need to be tweaked.

    Your system still might not be fully stable, as you've had success with running only one of the three Prime95 stress tests.
    My systems run fine with "only" 4GB of memory.
    I'm using 8GB of matched memory in my P35 system so that I can run with a much faster ram disk to see if it helps with performance, but I haven't gotten around to installing the ram disk and testing real world performance.

    SSD prices are very inexpensive right now.
    Your system will perform much better if you install a 120GB SSD for your operating system where the ssd uses synchronous or toggle NAND. Avoid buying an ssd that uses asynchronous NAND.
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    What was your previous cpu voltage that gave you a 0x124 BSOD?
    You could try splitting the difference between 1.33750 and the previous failed voltage. - previous fail was 1.3125 ...I will try to split it again

    Using 2 x 2GB and 2 x 1GB of mixed memory brands might work, but it might take a lot of additional stress testing....maybe leave it for now with the 2x2
    MCH Core voltage might need to be increased up to 1.30 or 1.32 with additional memory.
    DRAM voltages might also need to be tweaked.

    Your system still might not be fully stable, as you've had success with running only one of the three Prime95 stress tests....maybe need to run other tests...is that the large and small fft tests, or something else?
    My systems run fine with "only" 4GB of memory.
    I'm using 8GB of matched memory in my P35 system so that I can run with a much faster ram disk to see if it helps with performance, but I haven't gotten around to installing the ram disk and testing real world performance.

    SSD prices are very inexpensive right now. unfortunatley ....I cant afford to buy any gear now...hence the tweaking to make my system last a bit longer.
    Your system will perform much better if you install a 120GB SSD for your operating system where the ssd uses synchronous or toggle NAND. Avoid buying an ssd that uses asynchronous NAND.
    see notes above.

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    If my math is correct, there are 4 steps between your current cpu core voltage and your failed core voltage.
    If splitting the difference is stable for all three 8+ hour Prime95 stress tests; small FFT, large FFT and Blend, I would call it good.

    Unless you're running intensive applications that require more memory, adding your 2 x 1GB memory kit will NOT improve performance.
    When you're using too little memory (e.g. only 2GB with win7) adding more memory definitely helps.

    I described the zip/unzip stress test earlier in the thread. A few members have passed all of their extended stress tests, but failed the zip/unzip stress test when they zipped a large variety of files to a zip archive, where the total file size for all files was 5 - 10GB. When running this test, you need to test the zip file integrity and also unzip all the files to a temporary folder location. If there are any errors when zipping, unzipping, or testing the large zip file's integrity, your system is not stable.

    Look at my System Monitor II gadget screen-shot and you'll see that even though I have 5,322 MB of free memory, my swapfile is using 132 MB. My system never goes higher than about 180 MB of swapfile usage even when I haven't rebooted for several days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    If my math is correct, there are 4 steps between your current cpu core voltage and your failed core voltage.
    If splitting the difference is stable for all three 8+ hour Prime95 stress tests; small FFT, large FFT and Blend, I would call it good. - I will try and split one more time, then run tests...maybe tomorrow.

    Unless you're running intensive applications that require more memory, adding your 2 x 1GB memory kit will NOT improve performance. - I do some video editing, and use microsoft flight sim x, which I have some detailed scenery installed. Does this classify as intensive.?
    When you're using too little memory (e.g. only 2GB with win7) adding more memory definitely helps.

    I described the zip/unzip stress test earlier in the thread. A few members have passed all of their extended stress tests, but failed the zip/unzip stress test when they zipped a large variety of files to a zip archive, where the total file size for all files was 5 - 10GB. When running this test, you need to test the zip file integrity and also unzip all the files to a temporary folder location. If there are any errors when zipping, unzipping, or testing the large zip file's integrity, your system is not stable. - might try that and see..i did read that earlier
    Look at my System Monitor II gadget screen-shot and you'll see that even though I have 5,322 MB of free memory, my swapfile is using 132 MB. My system never goes higher than about 180 MB of swapfile usage even when I haven't rebooted for several days. - Noted.I will check my system

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    See above Jim... I must say you have been more than helpful with this time consuming exercise, and I could not have done it without your help. For that I thank you very much.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Encoding or photo/video editing might use a lot of memory and require a lot of swapfile usage.
    You can use the gadget to monitor swapfile usage, because reading from and writing to the swapfile does lower overall performance.
    If the flight simulator can be run in a windowed mode, you will be able to see what the memory usage is.

    My N650SLI-DS4 SLI setup has 4GB of memory and my graphics benchmark scores are only slightly lower than more powerful, modern quad core systems that have a similar single or SLI video card setup, such as a single GTX 570/580 card or a GTX 460 SLI setup.

    Your non-overclocked setup might have been stable with your mixed brand 6GB memory, but it might not be stable with your overclocked settings. I've assisted others with getting their P45 systems stable with 8GB of matched memory. With your current memory speed less than its rated speed, 6GB of mixed memory might work. It all depends on how much extra stress testing and tweaking time you're willing to do.
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    You're welcome, glad to help out.
    I missed your thank you at the end of your last post.

    Save up your money for an Ivy Bridge system.
    Now that the Z77 bioses have matured, overclocking is much quicker and easier than with older systems.
    Extensive stress testing is still required with newer systems.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Hi Jim,

    Completed all 3 types of stress testing at 1.3375v yesterday, but decided not to split again, but just to leave it as is. I'm curious about the extra ram, but can live without it if need be. I'll put it in again and try just fro curiosity, but if it doesn't want to play nice, I'm not sure I want to go through all the testing again....

    "Save up your money for an Ivy Bridge system."....I will be doing that....just need some time to save. for now I'll have to settle for what Ive got.
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Your cpu voltage should be fine and is reasonable.
    With the additional 2 x 1Gb of ram installed, run the Prime95 large FFT test first, as this is the most demanding memory test.
    A follow up Blend test would also be good.
    Running the zip/unzip/integrity test doesn't take much time.

    To help others, please post your current full 425MHz bios template settings.

    Glad to see that you continued your overclocking odyssey to the end, and then some.
    Last edited by profJim; 09-04-2012 at 08:10 PM. Reason: spelling
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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