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    Default Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    HI All,

    I posted way back in 2009 about overclocking, but gave up and couldnt get a stable setting. Ive changed some hardware since then, but I still would like to squeeze a bit more from my aging system.

    I hope someone can help me with this. I know its a dated system but some help would be appreciated.

    Specs are now.


    EP45T-DS3R
    Intel Q9400 running Stock...
    2x1gb G-Skill PC3-10666 1333Mhz CAS 9 9 9 24
    2x2gb Kingston PC3 DDR3 10667 1333 CAS 9 9 9 24
    Nvidia GForce GTX285 1gb graphics
    Samsung 750gb Sata Hard Drive
    650wt Thermaltake Power supply
    Arctic Freezer 13 Cooler


    Link to Ram G Skill
    DDR3

    and Kingston

    http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/K...3S8N9K2_4G.pdf


    Bios Settings

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)

    Robust Graphics Booster ...............:
    AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8 X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................:
    [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:
    333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................:
    800mV<<<
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................:
    900mV<<<
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0<<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0<<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................:
    Standard
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:
    AUTO
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    1333
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [
    auto]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    9
    tRCD .........................................9
    tRP'...........................................9
    tRAS..........................................24

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................Aut o
    tWTR..........................................Auto
    tWR............................................Aut o
    tRFC...........................................Aut o
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:Auto

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    1.2125
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:
    AUTO

    CPU Referen.…………....
    0.760V*.......:


    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:
    MCH Reference….…….
    0.760V...........;
    DRAM Ref.…..............0.
    750V...........:
    ICH I/O……………….....
    ..1.500V............
    ICH Core…………...……..1.100V............:

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....
    1.500............:
    DRAM Termination .…
    0.750............:
    Channel A Reference
    0.750V............:
    Channel B Reference
    0.750V............:

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Vmware/Virtual PC

    So this is where I am at. I tried several settings from my previous post, but cant get the pc to boot into windows. (gigabyte splash screen then nothing). Someone maybe able to give me some ideas please.


    Regards
    Craig
    Last edited by hanleyc; 08-08-2012 at 06:38 PM.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Remove the 2x1Gb memory modules while overclocking.
    Mixing memory brands can make it more difficult to get a stable overclock.
    Once you've reached your o/c goal, you can try tweaking for stability with 6GB of memory.

    Let us know what specific altered bios settings won't let your system boot.
    Before booting into windows, boot using a bootable Memtest86+ usb or optical drive.
    Even with good memory, Memtest86+ can often generate errors when some bios settings aren't quite right.
    With an unstable o/c, you run the risk of possibly corrupting your o/s boot drive.


    We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the PC Specs portion of your
    forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
    profile page or in your forum signature http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile....=editsignature.
    Be sure to include brand names and model numbers.

    note: I changed your thread title from Q0400 to Q9400.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Remove the 2x1Gb memory modules while overclocking.
    Mixing memory brands can make it more difficult to get a stable overclock.
    Once you've reached your o/c goal, you can try tweaking for stability with 6GB of memory.

    Let us know what specific altered bios settings won't let your system boot.
    Before booting into windows, boot using a bootable Memtest86+ usb or optical drive.
    Even with good memory, Memtest86+ can often generate errors when some bios settings aren't quite right.
    With an unstable o/c, you run the risk of possibly corrupting your o/s boot drive.


    We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the PC Specs portion of your
    forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
    profile page or in your forum signature http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile....=editsignature.
    Be sure to include brand names and model numbers.

    note: I changed your thread title from Q0400 to Q9400.
    Thanks Prof Jim for changing the title...a bit dyslexic I think.

    I will take the 2x1gb sticks out and try again. The message I get in the bios is the big red one that says the settings and voltages have changed due to overclocking and the settings here may not be correct. So I guess it could be anything in the bios related to voltages or overclocking. Sorry I cant be any more specific than that. The pc is running with optimised defaults now, with the exception of the CIE settings being disabled. Everything is at stock speeds/voltages.
    Details have been updated in my system specs as you mentioned. I would be looking for a modest overclock to 3 or 3.2ghz.

    Regards

    Craig

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    You're welcome.
    Check out http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post295784, post #5 for some basic recommended bios settings.
    The AUTO setting for MCH Core is probably the biggest problem right now; try 1.20 - 1.26 volts with your DDR3 memory.
    Once you've passed several Memtest86+ full test loops (tests #1 - #8) see if you can boot into windows.
    You can save up to 8 different bios profiles in the bios and this will make it easier to load saved stable or test settings.
    Your motherboard user manual has information for saving and loading saved bios profiles.

    Once you can boot into windows, follow step #4 in the linked to post to create a single screen-shot that will provide useful information.
    It's important to report accurate bios settings and a detailed description of any errors that occur while stress testing.

    Nicely done with your PC Specs hardware list, but there's a typo in the motherboard model name.
    Last edited by profJim; 08-08-2012 at 07:36 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Thanks Jim.

    Let me go away now, and read all the information, experiment with a few settings,run a few tests, and then get back to you . sound ok?....oh and thanks for your help.

    edit - fixed the pc specs list in profile.
    Last edited by hanleyc; 08-08-2012 at 07:52 PM.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Sounds good.
    Use the forum advanced search tool and enter q9400 ep45t in keywords section and select search titles only to get an idea of the general range of settings that have worked with similar systems.
    Happy reading ;)
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    First round after trying and even with the speed increased to 340 (2.72ghz) the pc wont boot into windows. I get the splash screen then it disappears and reboots.
    Ive had a browse around the forums and I didnt want to change much other settings as yet.

    Any form of adjustment in the bios seems to render it unstable. (I am running only with the 2x2gb kingstom ram atm)

    EDIT: Increased my voltage on the ram to 1.6, and I booted into windows @2.72ghz. I'll keep experimenting, and post back soon.
    Last edited by hanleyc; 08-11-2012 at 08:55 AM.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    This is where I'm at now....

    Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help-untitled-jpg

    I want to go slightly higher if possible, but when i got to 3.2ghz, I got the BSOD, and a reboot.There is the result of the intel burn test on high as well.

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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Post a cpu-z screen-shot of the cpu-z Memory and SPD tabs.
    I think that I know what the problem is.
    Also post a link to the Kingston website that links to the PDF file for your exact memory kit.
    Click on the Kingston HyperX memory link in my signature and it will take you to the PDF file for my memory; we need the same information for your memory kit.

    It will speed up troubleshooting if you post your bios settings where you manually fill in the settings that you are using. If you've left settings on AUTO, put that in the template that you post as a TXT file. Also accurately fill in all the settings that you've changed since your previous settings.

    Are all these details necessary? ABSOLUTELY!!!!
    Any errors or omissions will slow everything down.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Q9400 Overclock EP45T DS3R Help

    Motherboard: Model: Rev1: GA EP45T DS3R
    Bios Version:f3
    Cpu: Model Q9400
    Ram: Brand, Kingston DDR1333 2x2gb
    Model/Part#, http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/K...3S8N9K2_4G.pdf
    Power Supply Unit: Thermaltake 1O163 Toughpower QF-FAN 650wt (this has a lifetime warranty which is one of the reasons why I bought it )

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [8]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] <-- ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.04 <-- this is set by your bios

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [380]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto

    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard] <--- set to STANDARD when overclocking
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [3.20B] <-- this is the setting that you are using
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [1216]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 9 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD ------------------- 9 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- 9 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS ------------------- 24?? ---------- : [Auto]

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.225

    CPU Termination --------- 1.22
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.50----- : [1.50]

    CPU Reference ----------- 0.76V* ----- : [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.22V ------- : [1.22]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.76 ------- : [0.76]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.75V ------ : [0.76]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.50V ------- : [1.50]
    ICH Core ---------------- ?.???V ------- : [
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.60V ------- : [1.60]
    DRAM Termination -------- 1.22V ------- : [1.22]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.75V ------- : [0.75]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.75V ------- : [0.75]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]
    Last edited by hanleyc; 08-11-2012 at 02:30 PM.

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