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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    what memory are you using and settings, dram and qpi/vtt voltages?
    I am using Muskin Silverline DDR3 1333Mhz,
    All the voltages are on default, can i see them someware ?

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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by aronasbjorn
    Hello,

    I have the same issue that you described in a tread here on this forum,
    random shutdown, and will not boot again for some time.
    what did you end up doing ?
    I'm still testing to rule out any other components

    I benched it a few weeks back to isolate any issues with the case, switches, fans, etc....



    It crashed within a few days, so I've now ruled out every component except motherboard, CPU & my coolermaster heatsink, and Intel says that it's unlikely for a defective CPU to cause this issue.
    I switched back to the stock intel heatsink a few weeks back, and I'm now just waiting for another crash to be positive it's the motherboard before RMA. It's being stubbornly stable, but it's gone this long without a crash before.

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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    As for diagnosing your issue, IMO the key detail here is the failure to boot back up afterwards, or even to attempt to POST.
    Sudden shutdowns can have any number of hardware & software causes, but far fewer parts are capable of preventing the machine from powering up entirely.

    For issues like this, the first culprit is always the power supply, as when they go bad they can cause issues much like ours.
    If at all possible, swap power supplies with another machine to rule that out. Any other machines in the home? A friend you could swap with?
    With your parts, assuming not overclocked anything above a ~400w PSU would likely suffice, assuming it has a 6pin PCI-E for your GPU

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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    It's rare, but I've seen a few cases where the front panel power on/off switch caused random problems with starting the system.
    If you're very careful, you can use the paperclip test to see if your power supply will power up immediately after a sudden shutdown.
    I've performed this test with the 24-pin psu power cable connected to the motherboard by jumpering the light green and black wires from the "top" wire side of the connector. See http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post441685, post #29 for more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    It's rare, but I've seen a few cases where the front panel power on/off switch caused random problems with starting the system.
    If you're very careful, you can use the paperclip test to see if your power supply will power up immediately after a sudden shutdown.
    I've performed this test with the 24-pin psu power cable connected to the motherboard by jumpering the light green and black wires from the "top" wire side of the connector. See http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post441685, post #29 for more information.
    I too recall seeing mention of a failed reset switch being the cause of someone's troubles, one of the reasons I benched my board.

    Very interesting idea trying to paperclip the wires on the 24pin connector, is this any different/better than doing the same using the pwr-switch pins on mobo to boot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aronasbjorn View Post
    I am using Muskin Silverline DDR3 1333Mhz,
    All the voltages are on default, can i see them someware ?
    in the bios it will tell you,i doubt ram running at 1333mhz would give you issues but checking the voltages would be a good thing

    in the bios under m.i.t section look for dram and qpi/vtt and tell me how much is being used

    i have a h55 board but with 8gb of 1600mhz ram and it need alot of qpi/vtt to be stable 1.32v and 1.66v dram

    @logical have you tested without the ocz ssd? just to rule that out? is it running the latest firmware and mb bios?
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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    Either approach should work.
    My interest would be to see if the psu can power up immediately after a sudden shutdown.
    If you have an infrared thermometer, you could quickly check for unusual hot spots in or around the psu and on the motherboard.
    You could also use a large fan to cool off your hardware to see if this speeds up the recovery time after the sudden shutdown.
    It sounds like a component somewhere is randomly failing and takes some time to recover before your system can be restarted.
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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    keep an eye on system temps with hwmonitor or aida64,maybe northbridge or something is overheating? or something in the power supply seeing that it wont work untill its rested/cooled down for a while
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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    @logical have you tested without the ocz ssd? just to rule that out? is it running the latest firmware and mb bios?
    Yes, latest firmware on SSD & motherboard BIOS

    I have not tried running the system without the SSD for any significant length of time. However, immediately following one of the sudden shutdowns I did try disconnecting all sata devices including the SSD to determine if they were somehow preventing powering back on, no change.

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Either approach should work.
    My interest would be to see if the psu can power up immediately after a sudden shutdown.
    Hmm, that's a very good point. One way's telling the mobo to signal the PSU to boot, the other way is directly signalling the PSU.
    I've ruled out the PSU as my culprit (occurred with known good PSU as well), but could be quite useful for aronasbjorn if he can't otherwise test his PSU.


    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    If you have an infrared thermometer, you could quickly check for unusual hot spots in or around the psu and on the motherboard.
    You could also use a large fan to cool off your hardware to see if this speeds up the recovery time after the sudden shutdown.
    It sounds like a component somewhere is randomly failing and takes some time to recover before your system can be restarted.
    Hmm.... I'd considered overheating, but I was only considering the components that provide sensor data (nothin unusual). Perhaps there's some caps or something failing randomly, which might explain why it's been seemingly stable now since swapping the stock intel HSF on (perhaps it's downward facing fan is cooling whatever's defective?) Still too early to know for certain tho, as it's gone this long without shutdown before.
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    Default Re: H55M-USB3 random shutdowns, will not power on afterwards.

    Many of the motherboard components above and to the right of the cpu socket are VRM's (Voltage Regulator Modules) and these can get quite hot at times.
    With good airflow flowing through your computer case, VRM overheating is not a problem, even with a tower type cpu cooler that does not blow down onto the VRM's.

    Last edited by profJim; 01-02-2013 at 09:38 AM. Reason: corrected the mobo picture
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