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    Default GA-EP45-DS3R & Kingston Hyperx T1- Can't get to 1066

    Hello,

    I had quite a bit of help before with my GA-EP45-DS3R and OCZ Platinum (RIP).

    So one of those sticks went bad, and so I bought some replacement memory here:

    Micro Center - Kingston HyperX blu 4GB DDR2-1066 PC2-8500) CL5 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit Two 2GB Memory Modules) KHX8500D2T1K2/4G

    So, I figured, all I would have to do was switch the DRAM voltage since it was 2x2Gb stick swap. However, I can't get the Kingston to run @ 1066.

    Here are my BIOS settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.21 Ghz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................4
    tRFC...........................................52
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.25

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.30

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << 1.50

    CPU Referen.…………....0.76V*.......: <<< [Auto]

    CPU Reference2………,,0.760V*.......:<<< [AUTO]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.200
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.200-2.3 <<<<<< tested every increment
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]

    Any Suggestions?

    I was thinking about returning the Kingston and ordering the following Gskill:

    Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB &#40;2 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 &#40;PC2 8500&#41; Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    or

    Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB &#40;2 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 &#40;PC2 8500&#41; Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI-B

    Would gskill be any better?

    Finally, I will use this mobo for a 64bit windows upgrade soon. Will I be able to get 8GB RAm @ 1066, or would I be better using just 800 for 8Gb?

    Thanks
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Kingston Hyperx T1- Can't get to 1066

    MCH Core = 1.22 - 1.26 might help.
    Most 4GB DDR2 memory kits in EP45 boards needed slightly higer MCH Core settings for cas5 1066 speeds or cas4 800MHz.
    G.Skill memory often wanted lower MCH Core settings with 4GB kits.

    In my P35 system, I'm running 8GB of HyperX T1 1066 memory at 876MHz with 4-4-4-10 timings at 2.20 volts.
    I tested one 4GB kit at 1066 speeds with 5-5-5-15 timings and had no problem.

    I prefer running tighter cas4 settings below 900MHz rather than using cas5 settings for 1066MHz or higher speeds.
    Other than lower memory benchmark scores, you won't notice any performance differences when running with tighter cas4 timings in the 800MHz range.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Kingston Hyperx T1- Can't get to 1066

    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.25
    CPU Termination….... 1.200V*.......: 1.30
    Are these your current settings?
    The general recommendation is that CPU Termination (aka VTT) should be at least 0.05 lower than Cpu Vcore.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Kingston Hyperx T1- Can't get to 1066

    ProfJim,

    Thanks for all of your help. I think I found the problem:

    If I take the sticks out and place in Dimm slots 2 &4- I can boot upto 1066 very easy.

    However, if I put in slots 1 & 3- I can't raise the voltage.

    Given that my #3 stick went bad- is it possible that there was a surge, or short in dimm slot #3 that over volted the ram stick and cause it to go bad? and now I can't raise voltage?

    If that is the case, would I be better off replacing with a new 775 mobo that uses DDR3 ram? The ddr2 stuff seems high in comparison.

    Thanks
    MOBO: GA-EP45-DS3R (BIOS F10)
    CPU: Q9450 @ 2.66 (OC'd to 3.21Ghz)
    CPU Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120
    RAM: OZC 4GB Platinum @1066 (2x2Gb)
    GPU: ATI HD6850
    Power: Cooler Master Real Power Pro 850w
    Chassis: Cooler Master CM 690
    OS: Windows Vista 32 bit

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3R & Kingston Hyperx T1- Can't get to 1066

    It sounds like there is a problem with your #3 memory slot.
    When you say that you can't raise the memory voltage, I assume that this means that your system won't boot with higher memory voltages.
    You didn't say if you ran any stress tests when using memory slots 2 and 4.
    Your system might be stable using memory slots 1 & 3 if you use lower 5-5-5-18 memory timings at 1.80 volts at 800MHz.
    If this setup is stable, your system might be stable with 8GB of matched memory with these timings.
    Look at the first column in the attached SPD for "guaranteed" settings at 800MHz.

    Current prices for 2 x 2GB memory kits:
    • DDR2 1066MHz at cas5, $65 - $80 per kit
    • DDR2 800MHz at cas4, $65 - $80 per kit
    • DDR3 1333MHz, $32 - $40 per kit

    P45/DDR3 motherboard prices:
    • new, about $200 - $300.
    • used, slightly lower prices, but not by much.

    Some websites sell used motherboards with a 90 warranty for somewhat more reasonable prices.
    A new P45 motherboard might have little or no warranty coverage if the warranty coverage starts from the date of manufacture instead of the date that you purchase it.
    If you go with a P45/DDR3 motherboard, carefully research which DDR3 1333 memory kits are compatible with your new motherboard by checking with the memory vendor's website and tech support.

    I think that your best bet is to buy a Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge system to go with your upcoming x64 operating system. A Sandy Bridge system will be somewhat less expensive, but you will probably have an easier time overclocking an Ivy Bridge system. For either setup, you need to buy the right motherboard model and a K-model cpu if you want to overclock.

    There will be some excellent holiday sale prices from mid November through new years day.
    You can keep your current system as a home server or for backups, or you can sell your hardware to reduce the price of a new system.

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    Last edited by profJim; 09-26-2012 at 02:55 PM. Reason: minor edit
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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