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    Default Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Hi all :)

    In a matter of 2 weeks of full daily use, my mostly brand new build (first GB mobo ever) has gone from working great (with some freezes) to boot looping, not posting with some life still left in it, to not posting with no fan action or beeps at all, just the mobo light on.

    Used a legal Windows 7 Home 64b. Sadly did not update my BIOS (not sure which it is). Hope you can see my other hardware specs?

    Just adding my history to the problem archive. Maybe there's some new hint in it...

    sep 8: cursor freezes (had frozen temporarily a few times/seconds previously in that session)
    sep 15: sudden restart, but had used Sleep for the night for the first time
    sep 19: cursor freezing after keeping Ctrl key down longishly in Total Commander
    Probably used the reset button for all freezes except one.
    sep 21: used Sleep 2 times in a row, but after second time it doesn't wanna wake up and I'm getting clicks from the PSU every 5 secs (boot loops). I decide not to use Sleep anymore.

    Discovered the use of the Event Viewer and noticed most errors were Perfnet and WMI related, which I didn't find too much easy clues about.

    sep 22: perfectly stable day
    sep 23: had not used Sleep, but still doesn't wanna start. Boot loops... When I get into Windows, the PC suddenly shuts down after just a couple of minutes!?

    On the next try, the PC won't even post, but I do see late reactions of trying to, like the CPU fan starting up for a few seconds 10 seconds after I pushed the start button. Spooky... Went off to do *a lot* of reading and used many of the tips here.
    On the next day with new hope, even the CPU fan doesn't react anymore...

    My vendor said he'll gladly handle it and not to worry..., but I'd rather not 've had to make that drive twice.
    He also said he swears by Gigabyte and not a single customer of his (builds?) has this problem. Very difficult to believe, but he strikes me as the honest type.

    Last thing I'm trying tonight is leaving out the batt. for prolonged time w shorted CMOS contacts.

    The only thing I still wanna ask is if I should try starting up with the backup BIOS, using the switch on the mobo?
    And of course if my trouble gave you any clue?

    I now know I should have updated the BIOS earlier, and that's what I was planning, but it seems too late...

    My memory is showing as compatible here: G.SKILL- World leading DDR3 computer memory and SSD manufacturer -Products (and seen it used on a review of the board) but is not in the GB list.
    I'm not really sure how to adjust for it in the BIOS and after a few days activated the XMP profile, giving 1,65V. But before that, it seemed to work just as good.

    Like some others, my reaction is "When it works, it all seems to work great and stable"... until a freeze or worse developed.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Hi welcome to the forum.

    Can you please post your current bios settings. You can either use the F12 key in bios and save screen shots to a usb stick or note down settings and post them.

    Have your started off by loading optimized defaults?

    Have you run any stablity test like Prime95 or LinX/Intel Burn Test(IBT)?

    If so was it stable and for how long?

    What is max core temps while system is under load?

    Also I suggest updating to the latest bios which is F11.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Thx for the quick answer, but it seems an automated one?

    I though I made clear I can not even post to BIOS anymore...
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Have your started off by loading optimized defaults?
    > Even when all went well, I have not done that ever or initially. I had no clue before I read around here...

    Have you run any stablity test like Prime95 or LinX/Intel Burn Test(IBT)?
    > No..., sorry

    What is max core temps while system is under load?
    > Don't think I have that info. Under normal load in BIOS: very low. I believe like 30C (or 40 max)
    I'm not an overclocker initially. Didn't adjust anything in that sense. Just some common sense adjustments in the BIOS and guessing at what to do for the memory. Went to XMP 1,65V after a few days.

    Also I suggest updating to the latest bios which is F11.
    > But everything above F9 is a beta BIOS, isn't it?
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Last thing I'm trying tonight is leaving out the batt. for prolonged time w shorted CMOS contacts.
    When doing an extended CMOS clear, I always unplug the psu power cable from the back of the psu or from the wall outlet.
    Have you checked that all cables and installed hardware is fully seated?
    Try unplugging and re-seating all cables, wires, memory and installed cards.

    Try booting with only one memory module installed. You might need to try booting with different memory modules.
    Right now your primary goal is to get the system to be able to boot into the bios reliably.
    If these steps fail, boot with a minimalist hardware setup, http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post301218, post #2 has details.

    It's possible that your power supply is faulty, can you test with another psu.
    If these steps don't help, you might need to repeat the tests with your motherboard removed from the case, where the motherboard is placed on a cardboard box beside your computer case.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Quote Originally Posted by Metheny View Post
    Thx for the quick answer, but it seems an automated one?

    I though I made clear I can not even post to BIOS anymore...
    No my answer was not a automated one...

    Sorry I did not fully read your post. But after reading most of your problems, I answered with my response as these are the things that should be done when first build a new system.


    Try the things Profjim has suggested. Once the system is back up and running you need to test for stability even at stock settings. We always suggest here to manually set voltages as AUTO tends to over volt but it can under volt also.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    OK, the prolonged battery/cmos thing was to no avail either...

    Did most other things that have been suggested, but I have no extra PSU so will take it to my vendor soon.

    Again, you are advising above F9 BIOS which are beta bioses?
    My vendor might only wanna do the official thing, so I need very good reason to have him do F11.

    If I have to do it myself at home and things go awry again, I will be near suicidal
    Well, if he gets it stable on any version, of course I won't update just for kicks.

    But is this F11 specifically addressing the boot loops more or addressing my memory even better than F9?
    I can only find F9 on an official page...

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    F11 is official, it it were beta it would be F11d for beta.

    F11 will contain all the fixes from F9-F10 and all from the Beta of F11. Even still we suggest using beta's here as they are going to have the most recent changes. At some point the last beta in series will be renamed to official once they deem it to official.

    You dont have another system you can snag the PSU out of just to test, or maybe a buddy you can borrow from?

    Also you may want to pull the cpu out and check for any bent/broken or burnt pins. While you have the cpu out check the contacts on the back of the cpu make sure each pin has placed a mark on each contact pad.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z77X-UP5-TH: all ok > boot loops > no post

    Ok, thanks :)

    You dont have another system you can snag the PSU out of just to test?
    > I have a Seasonic 430 in my previous PC that has been working great for 5 years.
    It only has a 4 pin connector for the CPU though.

    Would that still work for the 3770K and can I fit that wrongly?

    Maybe you could advise where I have to connect it if my board is sitting in a standard case. The upmost 4 pin connection or the one under it?

    Since I haven't brought the PC back today, I could still try that (and the rest).

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    it will work fine with just a four pin connector,and it will only click in one way
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