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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    I have a psu tester and they're good for doing a quick check of voltages.
    Even if your psu voltages are OK, there still might be a problem with the power supply when it is under load.
    It's best if you can borrow a decent quality power supply to test with.
    You've got a good quality psu but it might be failing.
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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    try with 1.35v qpi/vtt,dont be scared to use this amount,i ran over 3 years with that much and cpu was fine

    random shut off's like your describing can be qpi/vtt/memory controller voltage not enough,can be a failing psu also but try qpi/vtt first
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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    Thanks Prof jim and Wazza,
    Will try the 1.35 qpi/vtt. If this does not work I will start looking at some new psu's. I may try another brand just to rule out probable compatability issues----this has been going on off and on for quite a while---notice the play with words---ha !!!!!
    thanks again for your great advice and help ---rclark

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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    You're welcome.
    If you're not already a Newegg email subscriber, do it.
    Last week they had a Seasonic X750 power supply for $100.
    XFX power supplies are also made by Seasonic and they are highly rated.
    You won't go wrong with a Corsair HX or AX psu model.
    Most Antec power supplies are very good to excellent.

    Check out psu reviews from JonnyGuru, HardOCP, HardwareSecrets, PCPER, or TechPowerUP.
    They all perform rigorous testing and at HardOCP: power supply reviews, they perform an overnight extended load test at elevated temperatures where it runs at 80% of it's rated power output.
    Many/most of the psu reviews at other sites are a joke.
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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    Well ya know, not only such great help but can you get any better than this, I mean really !!! Thanks so much Profjim ! Great guides, I will look over for sure and thanks for the recommendations. As luck or I hope it is such, would have it, I just got home from an outing with the family and tried to start my pc and it would not even post. It sort of rebooted a couple of times on its own and as it was doing so, I saw the bright blue leds for the fans on the case and the power light start dimming quite a bit and it finally just quit. When I tried the power button again nothing happened, I tried several times and "nothing" and just left it alone, I think it was really saying "this is it". Well at least I hope this is the problem--ha!! Wazza, unfortunately the 1.35 qpi/vtt was not able to get tested due to this,but again thanks for the suggestion,I was going to try. I will get on Newegg and see what is going on and you are right Profjim, I am very much a Newegg member and get their specials through the email ( yeah I missed a good deal on those power supplies ). My kids pc has a Corsair 750TX that has been going strong for 4 years. I guess you can get some once in a while that have a problem--to be expected for sure ( just the way my luck runs--ha !!).
    thanks again Profjim----rclark

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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    Unless the A.C. power cord worked its way loose, it sounds like your power supply is done & gone.
    Look on the bright side, at least your system didn't go up in flames or smoking glory.
    It should have a five year warranty. If it's still under warranty, maybe they will let you "trade-in" your current psu towards a higher-end model. Or you could buy a new psu and send in your current psu under warranty and then keep it as a spare or sell the replacement psu they return to you. I think that I've seen a couple of cases where Corsair sent new power supplies to replace faulty units. By law I think that any manufacturer can send you a refurbished replacement, even if the failed unit is virtually brand new. Why? Because technically you are sending them a failed "used" unit.
    Let us know how you make out.
    Glad to help out.

    ps: I just noticed your play on words in post #13, you're obviously a very punny guy.
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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    Thanks Profjim, too funny---"punny"
    yep this has been a week of tests--, my wifes car ( blinking D light--- what ??, got it fixed--3rd gear pressure switch ( never heard of this,but got it fixed, split the end of my finger but saved me some dollars--ha !! , bathroom sink (plumbing problem--thanks kids, fixed---ha), ( my parents kitchen light ----fixed !!! ) , between juggling work and this stuff and then this--- you gotta laugh !!!! I feel like I'm in a sort of " The Seven Voyages of Sinbad " or better yet with you all at my side (Jason and the Argonauts )---ha !!!! ( Don't want to even guess what the other voyages are going to be ---ha !!!! )
    Yep, I think I may just get a new power supply and just return this one and keep the return unit as a backup. If it is a good chunk cheaper I may downgrade to a 750 power supply, the 850 is a little overkill, I don't forsee going sli for quite a while, if I ever do. I went to HardOCP and read some great reviews of the power supplies I am interested in. Trying to find a XFX black edition 750 or 850 or Seasonic. I'll certainly keep you afloat of the continuation of this saga !!!
    take care and enjoy the rest of this weekend--------rclark

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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    too funny---"punny"
    You're a poet and you didn't know it.

    If it weren't for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all.
    Check out eXtreme Power Supply Calculator
    It takes a while to fill in all the details, but it will give you an accurate recommendation for what size psu to buy. Chances are with a single gpu setup, a 650 or 750 watt psu should be more than adequate for your present and future needs. I have an Antec TP-750 psu for my SLI system. I don't game on my pc so SLI was something I never thought I'd need. When I upgraded from my 7600GT to the GTX 460, I found that I enjoyed gpu overclocking and less than a year later Newegg had a great price on a somewhat better GTX 460 so I decided to find out first hand how much better SLI could be.

    When I ran intensive graphics stress tests and benchmarks on my P35 system with a highly overclocked GTX 460 video card, the maximum power draw of my system was ~ 312 watts A.C. from the wall plug and my 90% average efficiency Seasonic X-650 watt 80+ gold rated power supply needed 312 watts A.C. from the wall plug to deliver 281 watts D.C. to my system; (312 x 0.90) where 0.90 = 90% average efficiency at 50% power output. A silver rated psu would be about 2% less efficient than gold and a bronze rated psu would be about 3% less efficient that the silver rated unit. My preference is to go with a gold or silver rated power supply.

    Check out Murphy's Law and Other Reasons Why Things Go Wrong
    It might help put things in their proper perspective. This book is my bible.
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    I am going to read some of these Profjim. Thanks for sharing this, I am indeed interested in philosophy,especially in matters as in this---ha !!! Well, philosophy is applicable to all whether some want to accept it or not and some of it is quite cool and can really take the stress off of ones existence, however it can also mess you up forever if you dwell on certain things too long---ha !!!! Such as looking for the "perfect" power supply---ha !!!!! I thought I found it, XFX 750 Core Pro ( Bronze ) Edition. Note the word "Bronze" --doinkies---It is offered at Newegg for $85 less the 25 dollar rebate and has a excellent review at HardOCP . The hunt continues, .........., silver and gold
    Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Silver and Gold . - YouTube ------- couldn't resist this--sorry !
    take care--rclark

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    Default Re: problem with cold start Gigabyte UD3R V2

    Here's a quick list using Newegg's Power Search feature for selected brands of 80 plus silver, gold, and platinum rated power supplies from 620 watts to 950 watts. You can select your own criteria using the Power Search feature. Some other brands have some highly rated models, such as PC Power & Cooling, Silverstone (only a 3 year warranty), CoolerMaster (only a few models), etc. Surprisingly, some of the Rosewill Capstone and Fortress models got very high ratings.
    Note: Some models in this list have not been reviewed or their ratings might not be that great.

    Newegg Power Supplies- Antec, Kingwin, LEPA, XFX, Corsair, Rosewill, Enermax, SeaSonic USA, ... 620 - 950 watts, 80Plus Silver, Gold & Platinum

    Many models from OCZ, Thermaltake and others are usually mediocre, but have a few models that are pretty good. Some "name brand" are downright poor. Generally you get what you pay for but at this time of year there will be some excellent sale prices.

    Topic for another day: UPS, Uninterruptible Power Supply to better protect your computer hardware, $100 - $250.
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