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    Default EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    For about 4 years this board has been stable with 4 gb of Patriot Viper(2x1gb) DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) PVS24G6400LLK @ 2.1 v and 5-5-5-12 @ stock settings.

    Last week I installed an Intel 520 series SSD and did a clean install of Win 7 with AHCI enabled in bios. I decided to add more RAM and installed: Patriot Extreme Performance (2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 Model PDC24G6400ELK
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220227

    I started getting random BSOD's pointing to hardware; maybe ram, maybe a driver. I ran memtest86 overnight on each set by themselves on another pc - 7+ passes = no errors. Then I ran it on all 4 sticks on this board 3.5 passess = no errors. But I still got a BSOD.

    Any ideas how to get stable with this RAM: increase the voltage, bump the MCH by 0.1, or maybe I missed a setting in the bios (I disabled all “green” functions) or maybe it's because of the SSD?

    I did lower the DIMM voltage to 2.0 and it may have helped but seems like I should be increasing it with this RAM.

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by rudhawk; 01-19-2013 at 07:36 AM. Reason: incorrect hyperlink
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ver 1.1 - Bios ver 12
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Using 4 x2GB of identical 2 x 2GB memory kits can sometimes be difficult, using two different kits is often harder.
    Are you using 5-5-5--12 settings or 4-4-4-12 settings.
    You might need to set Dram Voltage to 2.20 volts or slightly higher for 8GB.
    MCH Core = 1.20 - 1.30 might be required, too low or too high can cause boot loop problems.
    You should disable Auto Restart when a BSOD occurs and report the error message and bug check code, for example 0x00000101

    Download and install Resplendence Software - WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer freeware and post the BSOD report. Read the documentation at the bottom of the web page.

    Also post a CPU-Z SPD screen-shot for each memory kit.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    I will try various settings for MCH & dram voltages - here are attachments in the next two posts.
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ver 1.1 - Bios ver 12
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Memory
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ver 1.1 - Bios ver 12
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Just when I thought I might be getting stable - I went to shut down after that last post & when I hit "shut down" I got the BSOD. I wouldn't think that is related to memory - but heres the whocrashed. if you want the minidump, I can send that.
    BCCode: 24
    BCP1: 00000000001904FB
    BCP2: FFFFF88008954608
    BCP3: FFFFF88008953E60
    BCP4: FFFFF800031EE90E
    OS Version: 6_1_7601
    Service Pack: 1_0
    Product: 768_1
    Attached Files Attached Files
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ver 1.1 - Bios ver 12
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Don't make any bios changes to your system.
    I need to have you provide detailed bios settings and several more screen-shots.
    Go to http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post312016, post #3 and copy the P45 generic bios template into NotePad or any plain text editor.
    You will need to go into the bios and accurately manually fill in the bios settings that you currently tested with and failed. You will then fill in your settings in the bios template and post the full template and include additional screen-shots.

    Briefly check out the first page of posts in GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB where Dan did an excellent job posting his bios settings and screen-shots.
    Dan's screen-shot in post #6 will provide the information we need to confirm some of your posted bios settings.

    Include which individual memory modules are in which memory slots using the slot naming convention in your mobo user manual's diagram.
    Memory slots #1 and #3 should be from the same kit.
    Memory slots #2 and #4 should be from the other memory kit.
    If you didn't install your memory this way, let us know the details.

    The following steps provide details for the screen-shot information:
    1) Fill in the generic bios template with your bios settings.
    --> Fill in Auto where appropriate.
    --> Update "??" values with what is displayed in your bios.

    2) Include a screenshot that displays:
    Memset using the SPD and ">>" tabs
    cpu-z CPU and Mainboard screens (several instances can be run at the same time)
    EasyTune6 --> TUNER tab --> ADVANCE tab --> VOLTAGE tab (only the Voltage tab is needed)
    CoreTemp screen [for your cpu's VID (Voltage ID)]

    Links for these programs are in the Latest Overclocking Programs, System Info, Benchmarking, & Stability Tools thread.

    It's best for you to created the cropped screen-shot before you test with updated bios settings and then close EasyTune6 and Memset before you start a new test.

    Any questions?
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    I haven't worked with some these apps since 2007 - hoped I followed your instructions correctly. Here's the Bios settings:
    Rud's Bios completed.txt
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    EasyTune, etc.
    EP45-UD3R - random bsod's  with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?-ruds-settings-screenshot-jpg
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R - random bsod's with 8 gb Patriot DDR2 - bios settings?

    Might this problem be caused by my page file setting?
    I had virtual memory set for c: drive only and system managed size. I've since changed to "Automatically manage paging file size for all drives", after reading through Who Crashed report.

    If that fixes it I'm still interested in a couple of my bios settings:
    1. PCI: which I have set to Auto
    2. Extreme memory Profile: which I have set to Auto
    3. No-Execute Memory Protect: which I have set to disabled (Is this important to have enabled?)
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R ver 1.1 - Bios ver 12
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