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Thread: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks




  1. #11
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    Default Re: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks

    Something I'm not clear on is the real difference between a Xeon CPU and a i7 CPU, or should I say Server vs. Desktop CPU. What impact would that have on my home computer. I don't play games anymore, grew out of that. I recall when Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (all words, no graphics) was a hot game. Make sure you drink lots of beer!

    But what applications would be slower, or faster. Aren't the thermal requirements much higher for a Xeon (125+ Watts). Of course I wouldn't be using the CPU at high speeds probably 98% of the time. And I know the costs are higher of course, probably not worth it for a home system?

    The other RAM I have is 24GB (6x4GB) DDR3 1600 (triple channel).

    And I did see there were products for DDR2 RAM for a RAM Drive but I also didn't see anything for DDR3. Oh well, maybe it is time for a new CPU and MB. I can take the old system and just give it to my wife or make a test platform for ESXi, something I haven't had the ability to play with yet.

    Thanks for the suggestions, keep them rolling, it's all a good read.

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    Default Re: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks

    DDR3 RAMdisk modules don't exist I believe because SSD's are fast, a good DDR2 module would saturate SATAII, Today SSD's saturate SataIII ports.... to have a faster RAM drive it has to reside directly on the MB to get higher bandwidth...

    Xeon's run from a different spec and tolerance level, some xeon's are near the same price as their counterpart i7-920/Xeon W3520, where here the Xeon was the same price, just harder to get.

    Here are two 2011's that I believe are nearly the same, here the Xeon multi is locked... but the Xeon is cheaper. The Xeon lacks DMI (not sure why and what that would affect though on a desktop)

    Name Cores Threads Frequency Turbo Boost Multiplier L2 cache L3 cache TDP Release Date Price (US)
    Core i7-3820 4 8 3.60 GHz 3.80 GHz Partially Unlocked 1 4 x 256KB 10MB 130W 2012-02-14 $305
    Xeon E5 1620 4 8 3.60 GHz 3.90 GHz 38 4 x 256KB 10MB 130W Q1 2012[19][20] $294

    Info; LGA 2011 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Confirmation;
    Intel ARK i7-3820; ARK | Intel® Core
    Intel Xeon E5-1620; ARK | Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-1620 (10M Cache, 3.60 GHz, 0.0 GT/s Intel® QPI)

    but my past experience with 775 Xeon's is they are more solid and predictable, will operate usually at a lower voltage (only by a little), OC'ing isn't a guarantee if at all, sometimes temps are better... so just like any CPU/CPU comparison it's a crap chute.

    Vin
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    OS = Win8.1
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    Mem = 12GB 2000Mhz corsair Dominator GT at 2010Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-2T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3 e770
    GPU = 2x Sapphire r9 290x in xfire
    HD = 2x Toshiba 120GB Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 2TB WD Black
    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

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    Default Re: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks

    That's for all that information. Now I'm seriously going to look at a Xeon.

    Thanks Vin for all your advice.

    Joe

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    Default Re: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks

    So I got the RAM in and I removed the six 4GB sticks and installed the three 8GB sticks. Now I'm running triple channel memory still and 24GB RAM still. So no change in performance, just a very slight power and heat reduction.

    I took four of the six 4GB sticks and placed those in my FreeNAS machine, replacing four 2GB sticks. This was my original goal but I also wanted to up my main computer RAM to 32 GB. Oh well. I have all the extra RAM in proper carriers and can use them for the next upgrade I make. Maybe that one will be a 64GB RAM machine, who knows but my eyes are now open to CPU limitations in addressing RAM. I'm done spending money for the next few months.

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    Default Re: X58-USB3 and 8GB DDR3 Sticks

    Happy and sad for you, but now you know.

    Vin
    Main Rig
    OS = Win8.1
    CPU = i7-980X @ 4.17Ghz 144x29 cooled by custom Loop
    Mem = 12GB 2000Mhz corsair Dominator GT at 2010Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-2T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3 e770
    GPU = 2x Sapphire r9 290x in xfire
    HD = 2x Toshiba 120GB Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 2TB WD Black
    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

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