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    Quote Originally Posted by Stutter View Post
    I just tried running 1600 with 1.32 vtt with Corsair's recommended 9-9-9-24 2t and windows got stuck loading endlessly. I rebooted and tried running with 10-10-10-24 2t and it got a little further but blue screened while trying to log in.

    I have been through various video cards to test that issue but between three gtx 460's (my current card was fresh from RMA) and a 7850 (new) the problem remained.
    it shouldve booted fine with those voltages,test with just one ram stick installed and see if it still stutters,i just want to rule out the memory,i ran some ocz reaper @1800mhz with 1.32v qpi/vtt and 1.66v dram
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    Default Re: Please help me solve this stutter problem

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    it shouldve booted fine with those voltages,test with just one ram stick installed and see if it still stutters,i just want to rule out the memory,i ran some ocz reaper @1800mhz with 1.32v qpi/vtt and 1.66v dram
    Okay, I just got done testing each stick alone in each of the main three memory slots. None of the sticks had any problem booting into windows and running programs @ 1336MHz in any of the slots. The stutter remained through all of the tests though.

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    it does seem strange,if youve tested and swapped everything it can only leave the cpu/motherboard

    did you test on a mechanical hdd? to rule out ssd issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    it does seem strange,if youve tested and swapped everything it can only leave the cpu/motherboard

    did you test on a mechanical hdd? to rule out ssd issue?
    The computer originally had the western digital black 640GB mechanical which passes all hard drive diagnostics. The SSD was purchased to trouble shoot the mechanical.

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    A couple of thoughts - troublehooting logic:

    If the stuttering only happens when you are on the internet, its internet (or your NIC / NIC drivers).
    If stuttering happens when you are disconnected from the internet, its machine.
    If stuttering occurs both on and off the internet, its machine.

    The X58 is known for southbridge heat issues. I have seen a few posts where people solved weird issues on X58's by replacing the thermal paste on the southbridge with a good quality paste and /or adding a small fan that blows directly on the southbridge. I would do both in your case - the board has been used for awhile and new paste is probably warranted. If video cards permit, you might even add a custom heatsink. Benchmarks are usually a pretty good way to cook the southbridge, BTW.


    Next, I googled Creative sound card stuttering and came up with a thread on GURU3D that said CThelper.exe was causing stuttering, so I would remove the card and uninstall the drivers. Use Gigabytes onboard sound for awhile and see if it helps.


    I don't think it's your problem, but I will mention it anyway - your ISP's DNS can be an issue. After I switched to Centurylink (Qwest), I started having lag issues with product photos (Newegg, Tigerdirect) taking 2 to 5 seconds to download on a 12mb/s connection. While the DNS record lookup was very fast using Qwest DNS, I used traceroute on a couple of Usenet sites and saw that all my internet connections were first routed through Qwests servers, which were causing the lag. There are quite a few things ISP's can do to DNS - so I suggest trying a third party DNS as a comparison.

    You can try the following:

    1. Flush the DNS cache.
    2. Turn off DNS client in services.
    3. Change your DNS servers on your NIC to OpenDNS at 208.67.222 and 208.67.220.220.

    This may get you faster internet response time.

    Hope those are some new ideas!

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    what monitor are you using? i know it has nothing to do with your network issue...

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    Default Re: Please help me solve this stutter problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinster View Post
    what monitor are you using? i know it has nothing to do with your network issue...

    Vin
    Sometimes there are things just out of the control of our computers hardware, software, and drivers. Our IPS's can and should be blamed for what your experianceing. I'd look at your ihops to any known site just to see how your connection is routed. You might be supprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewot View Post
    A couple of thoughts - troublehooting logic:

    If the stuttering only happens when you are on the internet, its internet (or your NIC / NIC drivers).
    If stuttering happens when you are disconnected from the internet, its machine.
    If stuttering occurs both on and off the internet, its machine.

    The X58 is known for southbridge heat issues. I have seen a few posts where people solved weird issues on X58's by replacing the thermal paste on the southbridge with a good quality paste and /or adding a small fan that blows directly on the southbridge. I would do both in your case - the board has been used for awhile and new paste is probably warranted. If video cards permit, you might even add a custom heatsink. Benchmarks are usually a pretty good way to cook the southbridge, BTW.


    Next, I googled Creative sound card stuttering and came up with a thread on GURU3D that said CThelper.exe was causing stuttering, so I would remove the card and uninstall the drivers. Use Gigabytes onboard sound for awhile and see if it helps.


    I don't think it's your problem, but I will mention it anyway - your ISP's DNS can be an issue. After I switched to Centurylink (Qwest), I started having lag issues with product photos (Newegg, Tigerdirect) taking 2 to 5 seconds to download on a 12mb/s connection. While the DNS record lookup was very fast using Qwest DNS, I used traceroute on a couple of Usenet sites and saw that all my internet connections were first routed through Qwests servers, which were causing the lag. There are quite a few things ISP's can do to DNS - so I suggest trying a third party DNS as a comparison.

    You can try the following:

    1. Flush the DNS cache.
    2. Turn off DNS client in services.
    3. Change your DNS servers on your NIC to OpenDNS at 208.67.222 and 208.67.220.220.

    This may get you faster internet response time.

    Hope those are some new ideas!
    The southbridge heatsink doesn't feel hot at all during load so I don't think that is my problem. I think the fan on my video card is keeping it cool. My board doesn't seem to have a sensor there though so I don't have an exact number. This is what hardware monitor shows for the rest of the PC after letting the temps stabilize in prime 95. Temp 1 is definitely "system temperature" whatever that means, it matches the bios. I think Temp 2 is "CPU temperature" and Temp 3 should be "MCH temperature". Left is minimum, right is maximum:



    About the DNS, I went through that when I had my ISP come out and test the lines at my address. Google turned out to be the fastest DNS but it wasn't much of a difference from my ISP's DNS and it certainly didn't help my problem.

    About the sound card, I mentioned that I had tried pulling it out and having no sound device or drivers installed and the problem remained.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinster View Post
    what monitor are you using? i know it has nothing to do with your network issue...

    Vin
    I have tried two monitors and two new dual DVI cables. My current monitor is the Asus VG278H 1920x1080 120Hz monitor. The other monitor that I tested is an older Asus vw224u 1680x1050 60Hz.

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    I would rma the board for testing/repair,then take it from there,could be cpu or board seeing you've tested everything else
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    Default Re: Please help me solve this stutter problem

    The problem might be related to your 120GB Samsung 840 model with TLC Nand.
    Check out HARDOCP - Samsung 840 120GB SSD Review
    HardOCP really likes the Samsung 840 PRO and standard models except for the 120GB TLC, non PRO model.
    From their conclusion:
    This 120GB TLC SSD simply doesn't live up to the reputation that we have come to expect from the Samsung 840 series.

    When paired with the right NAND, or even enough of a lower quality NAND such as TLC, the MDX controller at the heart of this SSD can provide class-leading performance. Make no mistake, Samsung is currently the 800lb gorilla in the SSD market, but the Samsung TLC 120GB Model 840 is its Achilles’ heel.

    Samsung did not bring a smaller capacity than 120GB to market simply because the TLC NAND could not provide the endurance or performance to create a sustainable product. The 120GB version limps in at acceptable for some, but by our estimation falls far short of delivering performance that would be suitable for a normal consumer.

    We run a wide gamut of tests here at [H]ardOCP simply because some tests can reveal certain characteristics of an SSD that others will not. Interpreting and considering all results helps us to draw the most well-rounded opinion of the storage device in question.

    The results of our latency testing initially raised the red flag. We knew that we were going to encounter slow write speeds with this SSD, but what we did not expect was to receive abysmal maximum read and write latency. Latency spikes of this nature are undoubtedly going to lead to interruptions in the flow of computing for users. SSDs with appreciably lower maximum latency can still experience the occasional hiccup, but with ranges of up to 67ms (three times higher than the nearest competing SSD) there is guaranteed to be laggy performance in many scenarios. Users will become accustomed to staring at the little blue spinning circle with this SSD in their system.

    The slow sequential speed of the SSD will make simple procedures, such as copying pictures and videos, long drawn out affairs. Bear in mind that some 5400rpm HDDs can write at initial speeds of 140MB/s, and sustain a speed of 80-90MB/s. The fact that the 130MB/s that this SSD provides is even in the range of a 5400rpm HDD speaks volumes.
    Other web sites have reported similar results with the 120GB Samsung 840 TLC model.
    All other Samsung 840 models are very highly rated.
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