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    that's right,theres tiny vrm's inside the cpu but they are still on the motherboard but bigger ones
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    The problem I have with all this is the terminology being used, "the VRM in the CPU". Sure, it must be a voltage level control and distribution chip or part of the CPU die, but it can't be what are called VRMs on a mother board. As in the voltage regulator chips cooled by a heatsink, found at the top of the mother board and along the left side of the CPU socket. Those also use multiple capacitors and inductors to create power for the CPU, as well as the multiple "phases" (number of chips) used for a higher power capacity.

    Those components obviously cannot be part of a Haswell CPU for multiple reasons. The new 8 series Intel chipset boards have the usual chips and heatsinks for creating the appropriate power for a CPU. Moving the final distribution and voltage control to the CPU is the change in Haswell. I just hope the voltage control within the CPU works as well as previous platforms.

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    I read that block OC is supposed to be better with Haswell. Whether true or not, who knows? I didn't get into OC until SB, and with SB & IB I've pretty much left block adjustments alone.

    Pretty much decided to be an early adopter with Haswell. I was with IB, and I can't say that my two UD5H boards have been unpleasant to work with. If the USB 3.0 issue is as limited as I understand it to be, I don't think it will be a problem for me.
    If anyone knows something to contradict this, feel free to elaborate. I don't use any peripherial USB 3.0 storage devices so that can't affect me. My SeaSonic psu is supposedly low volt capable so that shouldn't be a problem with low power states.

    As far as early BIOS bugs....well there's that but with Gigabyte it's something you either tolerate or buy something else. I'm hoping with the new user configurable BIOS Giga is bringing something new to the table, but I know that if the underlying basic coding is crap all the bells and whistles won't mean much. IF -and this is a big if- this time around I run into bugs so bad I just can't live with it I'll dump the board and look elsewhere.

    One very solid thing about Gigabyte is their RMA. I've used them twice; the first time was either a factory defect or Newegg sold me a used board, the second time I borked a PCI slot which was totally my fault and Gigabyte fixed it with no comment. They did keep my box cover, but I guess that was a "learning" experience. Never send anything extra along with an RMA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boondocks View Post
    They did keep my box cover
    They did that to me too... I was mad when I realized that.

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    haswell reviews are out

    Intel Core i7 4770K (Haswell 4th Gen) CPU and Z87 Express Chipset Review :: TweakTown

    thing that catches my eye are the very low idle voltages of around 0.2v at idle

    much better ram speeds too with 2400mhz+ easily doable

    and the new z87 gigabyte bios's look much much better

    @ profjim I would grab some Samsung green ddr3 if you can spot any,i bet it would clock very well indeed on haswell platform

    haswell does use paste inbetween the die and heatsink like ivy does,i knew that anyway,so its out with the Stanley knife if your brave enough
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    I think that the Samsung Green memory is made from magic mushrooms.
    As good as it is, I can't see paying $100+ for 8GB of ram when I want to install at least 16GB and possibly 32GB if I can find a hack that will let my win7 x64 Home Premium run with 32GB. Hopefully Samsung will see the light and issue 8GB, 16GB and 32GB memory kits in mass quantities so that the price comes down to a competitive level. If I can run with a 16GB ram disk and 16GB for the O/S, I'll be a happy camper. I would reluctantly consider installing win8 x64 once I know for sure that there won't be any driver issues.

    Would I risk destroying a $350 cpu by de-lidding it and using the magical mystery oil that you used, well.....uh....let me see....OK, my anser is a definite, possible maybe. Going with a 4770K cpu, I really think that 4.2 to 4.6GHz with reasonable temperatures will be good enough for me. I'm going to wait until late summer or early fall before I build my Haswell system, where the bios will mature a bit and I can see how well others are doing. If I had deep pockets where money is no object, I'd buy right now and live on the bleeding edge.
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    I could do 4.6ghz with my ivy so id expect around the same for haswell,if you delidded though you would clock higher depending on how much voltage needed ect
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    I know.... I know!!
    I'd be happy with a nice Ivy Bridge system but I refuse to deal with non-Intel sata3 and usb 3.0 port problems.

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    nah your best go straight for haswell,clock for clock its faster
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    Hey wazza,
    check this out: Asus Haswell i7-4770 "Near Final" Overclocking Guide
    and you can download the guide!!
    It definitely looks like a must read for any Haswell overclocking wannabee.
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