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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Quote Originally Posted by will_s View Post
    yes...was very comfortable with Gigabyte in the past but the last 3 mobos have giving me probs. One so bad( new ) I sold it and brough a later model that I also had probs with. Now I am having probs with my older 55 series mobo . Something wrong as it takes ages to load the ahci bios...

    I think in these times its a case of getting them out there asap and let the customers do the testing. With desktops dropping in popularity for home users I guess its not the cash cow they once were and the first thing to suffer is reliability.

    One more little note , I have no idea how reliable the other brands are but whatever I get next it will be a case of REVISION 2 .... they should actually call rev 1 mobos beta

    I just want the boxes clearly labelled rev2
    Speaking of Revisions, who else besides Gigabyte does that? Or to the extent that Gigabyte does? That is, many of their boards have revisions, some up to three or four.

    Or is Gigabyte being honest, and labeling changes in the board with a revision number, while other manufactures never list revisions?

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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Some GB mobo revisions appeared to be merely cosmetic changes, such as a change in the mobo's heatsinks. Doing a binary compare of some of the bios versions for different revisions might show that different revisions sometimes or often share identical bioses. Some hardware changes might be due to fixing hardware bugs or problems that can't be solved with a bios fix.

    I recently discovered that at least one of their EP35 motherboard models had a GA-EP35-xxxx model number sticker on top of the GA-P35-xxxx printed on the motherboard's surface. I don't want to be too cynical, but with a popular motherboard that is in demand for a long time, it wouldn't surprise me if the marketing department "ordered" newer revisions to mis-lead customers into believing that the newest revs were the latest and greatest models. On their web page for each model, they include links to all the other revisions with the same model name, sometimes up to four motherboard revision numbers. Anyone care to see if they can find five or more revisions for any of the models?

    I doubt that I'll live long enough to ever see any motherboard manufacturer provide a reasonably comprehensive list of hardware changes, fixes and known issues for motherboards and/or bios releases.
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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    I sent a ticket to Gigabyte's (completely useless, as it turns out every single time I need something from them) support asking what the difference between Z77X-UD3H rev1 and 1.1 was, and they couldn't even give me meaningful answer.

    I don't think revisions bring any drastic changes though, not when just the lesser number differs at least. But noone knows what's under the hood, so...

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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Octopuss View Post
    I sent a ticket to Gigabyte's (completely useless, as it turns out every single time I need something from them) support asking what the difference between Z77X-UD3H rev1 and 1.1 was, and they couldn't even give me meaningful answer.

    I don't think revisions bring any drastic changes though, not when just the lesser number differs at least. But noone knows what's under the hood, so...
    I spent over a month sending them info and replying to them while testing X79-UP4 BIOS F2 to F3p to F3t to get the critical random freezing bug solved.
    They first asked me to try the beta releases, then when I reported them that the bug was not fixed and if they could assemble a new beta with all the latest Intel updates (microcode,management engine firmware,Intel lan rom,Intel iRST rom) they refused and negated the issue. Really rude and unprofessional.
    Just a few years ago when one of their motherboards didn't have support for a new Intel CPU I asked them to please add support for it and they did.
    Gigabyte is going downhill pretty fast these days.

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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    They took an year to update the bios of Z77-D3H to support my ddr3 2000Mhz at this speed, but at least they did

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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Some GB mobo revisions appeared to be merely cosmetic changes, such as a change in the mobo's heatsinks. Doing a binary compare of some of the bios versions for different revisions might show that different revisions sometimes or often share identical bioses. Some hardware changes might be due to fixing hardware bugs or problems that can't be solved with a bios fix.

    I recently discovered that at least one of their EP35 motherboard models had a GA-EP35-xxxx model number sticker on top of the GA-P35-xxxx printed on the motherboard's surface. I don't want to be too cynical, but with a popular motherboard that is in demand for a long time, it wouldn't surprise me if the marketing department "ordered" newer revisions to mis-lead customers into believing that the newest revs were the latest and greatest models. On their web page for each model, they include links to all the other revisions with the same model name, sometimes up to four motherboard revision numbers. Anyone care to see if they can find five or more revisions for any of the models?

    I doubt that I'll live long enough to ever see any motherboard manufacturer provide a reasonably comprehensive list of hardware changes, fixes and known issues for motherboards and/or bios releases.
    This is all so true!

    I wonder why they bother with all these revisions, and the multiple links and overhead for the revisions of a particular board model. But as you said, the BIOS, driver, etc, files are probably all the same. I can imagine the owners trying to figure out what revision they have, and all the added support grief they must have answering questions about it. Sure, it's probably displayed in the BIOS, and the board is labeled, but that is not obvious to some people.

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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Gathered some info from their website, not too happy with the results. Here is the quick spreadsheet I made with it. Note I only went by official bios updates, NOT betas. Also I went with 4/5 boards with as I think they have a larger audience then the other series. Not very happy with what Iím seeing, definitely canít wait for the Maximus VI formula now.
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    Default Re: Who would go Gigabyte again ?

    Fun enough, apparently GB did release a new BIOS for GA-X79-UD3 F14 which is not even a Beta one just a couple days ago (2013/07/23).
    I wonder if they actually noticed this forum or some of support requests.

    I wonder if there is any chance that they will also release a new BIOS for GA-X79-UD5 since while the most recent F13p solves a few issues, especially with Windows 8, it's still a beta one and as I was able to find out with my X58 MB, meaning of word "reliable" applied to Beta versions of BIOS is a bit weird when used by Gigabyte.
    Would also like to see fresh microcode update.
    Last edited by Nelrum; 07-25-2013 at 09:17 PM.

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