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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Quote Originally Posted by GM74 View Post
    You re telling me in effect that I should loosen my 1600mhz timings to those I am going to use for at 2400 mhz and once I get it stable at that frequency to increase it until I reach 2400 mhz. This means that CAS timings are affected by system agent voltage, correct?

    Why shouldn't I do the opposite though? Why don't I start with loose timings at 2400 mhz, find a level where the system is stable then find the timings where instability is introduced and then start toying with system agent voltage? Does this make sense or am I way off here?

    Again thanks, and sorry if I am being redundant some times, I am new to this thing and it's a process until I grapple with it.
    You can try it either way... I just find it easier to start off slow and work faster. Just like when overclocking your cpu, you should see what volts you need to run stock first before you try and push a 4.5ghz or higher overclock.

    Also alot of users posting that they can run high memory speeds but not at the same time of high cpu speeds.

    With memory I am far from a expert when when it comes to overclocking. But Memory speed and timings, vdimm and system agent will have a impact.. Now when trying to ram at rated speed then its more system agent as you should bee setting vdimm to its rated setting. Some boards may not push 1.65v when you set 1.65v so you may need to set 1.67 or something.

    Overclocking and testing was easier on Ivy as the BSOD error codes could point you to the correct voltage to adjust. With Haswell 0x124 for vcore,uncore and ram then you throw in win8 and they dont give you error codes like win7 so it makes things alot harder. This another reason to play with one subsystem vs the whole thing at once.
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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Actually, I still use Win 7, not that I would know what to do with the various codes.

    A week later and I still haven't reached stability in rated speed. I did run memtest for 40-45 passes and 50-60 hours or so last weekend and it didn't find anything. I was able to keep the system stable with fairly tight readings at 1600 mhz for more than 24 hours before I stopped, but getting the system stable at rated speed is still a tall order; after 10-12 hours, the system freezes or gets a bsod. I ve upped system agent voltage to 0.160 right now. I still can go as high as 0.43 right? Sigh.

    PS. Btw, I also think it's better to set voltages through bios rather than UEFI. With UEFI, the system seems far more unstable and crashes sooner.

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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Ok, yet another update, As i still havent managed to solve this.

    1. I ve tried almost every system agent and cpu io analogue and digital voltage setting i could think of and still got bsod every 16 hours or so. I could be wrong, but as far as i know, there s no voltage setting that can make the system with this memory at its rated speed run stable.

    2. I also played with c3 states and such while trying to only load from bios not uefi. No dice.

    3. Also tried higher memory voltage, up to 1.75. No luck.

    4. I lowered speed to 1600 mhz, using the same fast timings as the 1600 model from the same trident series uses. I got a bsod after 50 hours.

    5. After that, i had enough and i rmaed the sticks. I then used my 4 old gskill sticks, 2gb, each rated at 1333mhz. Got no bsod for more than a week that i used those sticks.

    6. I got my new sticks yesterday, i changed xmp profile, system voltage, set to rated 2400mhz and 1.65v. I got a bsod after 6 hours.

    7. I am now rynning memttest for 6 hours, no errors found so far.

    8. Throughout most of these experiments, i used bios version f8b. After this, i will download the latest bios version which has memory enhancements.

    9. If this doesnt work, i am going to take a ****ing hammer and break the board to pieces. enough is enough.Most wasted summer ever.
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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    have you tested with just 8gb or 16gb? 32gb@2400mhz is a big ask imo
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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Yes, i have. For the couple of days i tried each stick, it worked, although i cant be sure because maybe it needs some days to get a bsod.

    As far as being a big ask, it s literally, the latest and best technology, this memory is on the qvl, if it doesnt work on this cpu, at the rated speed, without overclocking, where is it supposed to work?

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    it will work but you need to spend time to tweak it regarding voltages even then the cpu imc might not be able to handle 32gb @2400mhz

    I know what your saying it should work but those speeds are high and also the capacity which nearly always affects stability im afraid
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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Today I notice that there are new drivers available for chipset, LAN and SATA. Will those -in particular- the chipset drivers be of any help in regards to memory?

    Also, the bios seems to be stuck at version 8e for some time now.

    FWIW, I ve managed to get stability by lowering frequency to 1600 mhz but with lower timings than before. I do get graphical artifacts like image breaks after a few days though.

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    @GM, what versions for these did you find, particularly chipset and SATA? Wasn't sure there were drivers for SATA except iRST. Just want to verify if their more recent than what I got last month:
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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    I just noticed that their upload date was today, so they seem as recent as they come.

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    Default Re: Ga-z87x-ud3h & 32gb f3-2400c10q-32gtx

    Could it be? Can it be? Is it possible?

    I flashed the latest bios version f8h and then changed the memory speed to 2400 mhz with 1.65 voltage. I have enjoyed 32 hours of bug and crash free computing.

    Tears of joy are streaming through my cheeks. My long national nightmare seems to be over.

    Hopefully, touch on wood and all the rest.

    If so, Thanks Gigabyte!

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