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    Default Re: First Build Ever, Would Like To Avoid Screwing The Pooch

    Do a web search using: ssd spare area endurance to see how ssd performance and expected life is improved with a larger unused spare area on your ssd. With my 128GB ssd, I've set aside 1/3 of its capacity for the spare area. My ssd boot partition is set to 80GB and it currently uses 52GB of space.

    To simplify backups, I pre-formatted my ssd to use all available space before I installed windows. This causes the separate hidden Recovery partition to become a hidden system folder in the boot partition and backing up the boot partition automatically includes the Recovery folder. After win7 was installed I shrank the partition size to 80GB. I see no advantage to having a second partition on the ssd.

    I've seen many problem reports with Acronis compatibility issues over the years. Macrium Reflect freeware is an outstanding program for creating backup images and disk or partition cloning. Their paid standard or pro versions offer some additional features that might prove useful. I receive email offers from them every few months where the paid versions can be bought with a 30% discount. Macrium Reflect FREE Edition - Information and download You can read their online help documentation at Reflect_v5 Online Help

    With parts of windows moved to my D: partition on my hard drive, windows backup automatically backed up the C: and D: partitions. This caused a major problem when my OCZ ssd died and I tried to restore my backup to a new ssd. Windows Restore gave a cryptic message that a partition needed to be formatted but it didn't say which one and there wasn't an option to let windows format the necessary partition. Did I need to fully format my existing hard drive? I don't know. I have disabled windows backup and manually backup my boot partition using Macrium Reflect. Reflect does NOT include the page file or hyberfil.sys if they are in your boot partition.

    Some current ssd models offer excellent performance as long as they are less than 50% full. You will need to read ssd reviews for your ssd model to see if performance will suffer if you fill your ssd with more than 50% of its full capacity.

    Junction Link Magic can be used to easily "move" folders to another location.

    My approach would be:
    1. update ssd firmware
    2. format the ssd to use all available ssd space
    3. install win7
    4. install the Inf install and required drivers
    5. install win7 SP1 using a downloaded dvd iso file
    6. install your hard drive and partition it if necessary
    7. change file or folder locations
    8. create a backup system image for this base installation
    9. run windows update to complete your installation
    10. shrink the boot partition size to provide adequate spare area

    Your ssd might have set aside a spare area that is about 10% of its capacity.
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    Default Re: First Build Ever, Would Like To Avoid Screwing The Pooch

    You don't need any applications/utilities to move your pagefile or documents/video/music, etc...

    If you want to move your documents go to c:\users\yourusername\document and right click on documents and enter the properties, go to the location tab then click the move button and then point to another drive\folder. you can do that with any user folder.

    for the pagefile/temp folders Right-Click on My Computer, on the left... click on advanced System Settings... click on the Environment Variables and there you can re-locate your temp folders, then under Performance click on Settings, click on Advance Tab then under Virtual Memory click on Change, then select the new drive for the page file and set the size then click on C drive and select no page file.

    But again, I highly recommend that you leave the pagefile and temp folder on the SSD. also the same for the hibernation file...

    I'd also leave the partition on the SSD as a single partition, and as for free space, on my 3x40GB ssd's that are making my 120GB OS, it's been at over 90% for over a year... and when doing benchmarks my speeds are still no different today as they were when installed.

    Use the SSD like you would a normal day to day drive, just disable the defrag scheduler... I personally still have my drives do a weekly AV scan...

    if you take away too many of the items that read/write to the SSD you will negate having an SSD. use the KISS mentality.... (Keep It Simple Silly) just move the big stuff off it... SSD drives are rated to run at 20GB+/day read/write for 10 years... you WILL NOT TOUCH THAT...

    and if you are truly worried on usage then download SSD Life Free... it'll show you how your SSD is doing and give you an ETA on it's death based on your usage.... on my laptop and HTPC/Home Server I've been killing them with running multiple Virtual machines at the same time non-stop for years and I'm still expecting 8 more years of life out of them.... install and enjoy the speeds of the SSD....

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