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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    I've got to go out right now, but I'll have some bios settings for you to try when I get back in several hours.
    It will involve using the stock FSB = 333MHz and the 3.20 System memory multiplier for 1066MHz memory speeds.
    You will need to try somewhat higher (G)MCH settings along with Dram Voltage = 1.55 - 1.65 volts.
    Set Static tRead Value = 7.
    Make detailed notes about each of the settings for each attempt and if there is any improvement, including partially successful attempts.
    Only use one memory module in the first memory slot.
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Did you ever post with only 1 stick of RAM?

    It depends on the module SPD. With the difference in latencies and settings related to the memory controller latencies, there are potentially some modules that might not boot on some older boards.
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Hello everyone, I am also new to this forum.

    Although this thread is over-1-month-old. I have encountered a very similar problem, that is, OS or even BIOS does not boot up, always rebooting after few seconds. However, I want to insert only 1 stick of 4GB GoodRAM DDR3 1333MHz. GR1333D364L9/4G. Link with description of the memory http://www.goodram.com/files/Downloa...9-4g_256x8.pdf

    I have followed few suggestion made here (BIOS flashed to F4, although I tried F5b, but the system run very slowly then, had to flash-back), and setting BIOS to Optimized/Saved/Changed memory. My system specs should be in signature.

    Shots from CPU-Z
    EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram-cpu-png

    I would appretiate any suggestion on what to do in this situation. Should I manually set latencies in BIOS for the new memory, given by the manufacturer?

    Thanks in advance.
    Fodan.
    Last edited by Fodan; 09-05-2013 at 05:37 AM.
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Welcome to the forum.

    The Gigabyte memory QVL list http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList...c-ds3r_2.1.pdf only shows support for 512MB or 1GB ddr3 memory modules. You might be able to find a 2 x 2GB memory kit that will work, but I doubt that a single 4GB memory module will work. DDR3 memory in P35 or P45 supported motherboards can sometimes be tricky to get it running at full memory speeds. Using 3 x 1GB of ddr2 memory is not optimal and your best performance will be with 4 x 1GB or 2 x 2GB of matched ddr2 memory. 4 x 2GB of ddr2 memory is supported, but the price would probably be too high.

    Their are a lot of P35C threads in the forum. You should use the forum's advanced search feature to look at these threads to see which older ddr3 memory kits have worked for others. Using newer memory kits might cause problems. Most memory manufacturers' web sites will have a memory search feature that will list memory kits that are compatible with your motherboard. Using memory kits that they haven't listed as compatible with your motherboard is iffy at best.

    Click on Advanced Search http://forums.tweaktown.com/search.php in the upper right corner of a forum web page.
    In the Keyword(s) field, type p35c, select the Search Titles Only option and then press the ENTER key.

    I'm running 8GB of ddr2 1066MHz memory in my P35-DS4 and P35-DS3L overclocked systems.

    We can best help you after you create a detailed hardware list in the System Specs portion of your
    forum profile http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile.php?do=editprofile at the bottom of the
    profile page or in your forum signature http://forums.tweaktown.com/profile....=editsignature.
    Be sure to include brand names and model numbers.
    Last edited by profJim; 09-05-2013 at 08:58 PM. Reason: minor edits
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Hello again.
    Thank your for your reply.

    I am aware that the manufacturer gave a compatibility list, but I have read a lot of threads (here and elsewhere) saying how people could insert 4GB (single stick) and 8GB of DDR3 memory. Thats why I was wondering if there's a way.
    I think I know the main problem why it does not work for me.
    I cannot manually set CAS latency above 6, and my memory has 9. But I still don't know if that can be changed.
    If you have any other options or suggestion, please let me know.

    Regards,
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    Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650Ti
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    At the main bios screen press CTRL + F1 at the same time.
    This will give you full access to most of the bios options that are grayed out and not modifiable.

    In the MIT screen you will also need to set:
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------- [100] <-- 101 is OK
    Performance Enhance --------------- [Standard] <-- for now
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ---- [Manual] <-- AUTO won't let you make changes
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Hello again.
    I had to change the memory to 2x 2GB, GoodRAM, at the store. Works, but I have problems with OC. System won't boot if I try OCing a bit. I'll test this more.
    Thanks for suggestions.
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    If you are having problems with booting or overclocking, go to http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post312040, post #4 and save the P35 generic bios template.
    Open this template in NotePad or any plain text editor.
    Enter your bios settings in the template, save the settings as a TXT file and then post your completed bios settings.

    Note: Ignore all settings in the generic bios file and fill in your settings and enter AUTO where appropriate.
    For any settings that are not in your bios, enter N/A in the setting's field.
    Include a link to your memory's full specifications from the manufacturer's website.
    Include a CPU-z screenshot that includes all four panels similar to post #13 with non-overclocked settings.
    Your will probably need to set (G)MCH OverVoltage Control = +0.2V or slightly lower.

    Let us know if you have any questions.

    This is a copy of the P35 generic bios template:
    Code:
    CPU = Model #
    Motherboard = Model, Revision #
    BIOS Version =
    Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link
    
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8] 
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [450] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
    
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    
    CAS Latency Time________________ 
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ 
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 
    Read to Precharge Delay__________
    Static tRead Value_______________
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
    
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.25]
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    Last edited by profJim; 09-13-2013 at 07:16 PM. Reason: typo
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    Hello,

    I have read this post and I have the same problem exactly.
    I bought 2 dims of 4gb each 1333mhz Kingston hyper blue and when I'm installing them, the computer not boot.(I try only one-the same)
    I know the specs of my mobo telling only 4gb of DDR3 but like the guy who posted this thread I have read on the internet
    that people succeed to install 8gb DDR3 on this motherboard.
    anyone here encounter this issue? maybe I need to change few settings in the bios?
    (I update the bios to F4 and try load optimized default - no help)
    Thanks

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    Default Re: EP35C-DS3R won't boot with new DDR3 ram

    just add - This is the memory I bought
    http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/K...9D3B1K2_8G.pdf

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