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    Default GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    After solving a freezing problem with my system (start switch wire shorting), I added some additional memory that I had lying around. Same modules as were in the system - went from 6GB to 12GB. After doing some overclocking, the system is now running smoothly. But, I notice that it is taking longer for the system to complete POST and boot into Windows than before. About twice as long. I have turned off the GSATA, eSATA controllers and other BIOS features which I do not use. I have Line Load (vDroop) set to 1. But these settings are the same as in the past. So, I don't know what could be the cause of the slower POST. The system takes 35 seconds to reach the single beep and begin the POST process. And then another 35 seconds to fully boot into the Windows desktop. Before, it was half that time. I don't believe there is a problem with the RAM for 2 reasons. One - all of the RAM sticks have been used before on this system without problem. Two - the RAM has been briefly run through Memtest without error (although not for many passes). In any case, the POST is successful and shows no errors. It just seems to take a long time for the POST to actually begin. RAM was running at 1500MHz 6-6-7-6 before, and at 1600MHz 8-8-8-20 now. Any explanation for the much slower behavior?

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    Just wanted to add that during the first 35 seconds after the power is switched on, nothing seems to happen, then a quick click sound from the motherboard (barely audible), then several more seconds, then the beep and POST begins. I don't think the system is rejecting the BIOS image and loading the second one, but maybe. I did load optimized defaults before adjusting BIOS settings. On occasion, immediately after pressing the power switch, I hear a loud 2 second swish sound, which settles down gradually over another second or two, then the 35 seconds of inactivity, then the beep, and POST begins. Other than these delays, the system is behaving normally. POST displays that RAM passed, no error messages, Windows boots up without error. I may try raising some voltages. QPI.VTT is at 1.275 volts, as it always was. CPU vcore is on Normal, as that seems to be required for the clock speed wind down energy saving features to kick in. Perhaps slight bumps to QPI PLL or IOH core will help. Curious.
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    I gave up on this very problem a couple years ago. I am now just researching to see if anyone has solved this problem since I just recently moved my X58A-UD5 into a HTPC role. The 30 seconds of nothing before POST is now driving me crazy.

    I recall I couldn't get all 6GB's of ram to show up at the same time and after some tweaking and about 1 million bios updates they fixed it so that my ram showed up however this was one of the side effects of the fix I guess.

    I gave up on it until now.

    I patiently await to see if someone has a solution to your problem.
    If you happen to figure it out without anyone's help please post back telling me your solution.

    GL

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    When I had my GA-X58A-UD7, I disabled all devices/ports/adapters/plugs not needed or used within the BIOS. If you have mixed RAM sticks that weren't made/bought new and together as a set, then there will be major problems with system stability, to include boot up time. The UD7 hates mixed RAM sticks of any sort. If you have any settings on Auto, that could also delay booting as well. Using other ports/plugs that aren't Intel/chipset based will also cause boot delays. The X58 boards were very picky...lol

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    Thanks for your posts, guys. I think you are getting me closer to isolating the cause of the delay.

    It just so happens that this delay seems to have started when I added an additional 3 sticks of memory to the board, bringing it up from 6GB to 12GB. These additional sticks are of the same brand, Mushkin, as the original 3 sticks, with an almost identical part number. The only difference, I thought, was the type of heat spreader. Both types are rated 6-7-6-6 @ 1500Mhz on 1.65 volts. I only discovered today that one of the other timings (not one of the principal four primary timings) is very slightly different between the two RAM types.

    Also, when I "Load Optimized Defaults" in the BIOS and then start up the system, the extra delay to POST is gone, even with all 12GB of RAM installed. The beep happens in about 12 or 15 seconds, rather than 35 or 40 seconds when the system and RAM are overclocked. With optimized defaults, the RAM runs on 1.5 volts at 8-8-8-20 timings @ 1066Mhz.

    With 12GB of RAM installed, when the system is overclocked to even 3.1Mhz from rated 2.67Mhz (i7-920) it is not 100% stable, with browser and email client crashing on occasion. This is in addition to the extra start up delay.

    So far, with the 12GB of RAM, I seem to have a choice of not overclocking at all to get 100% stability and normal boot up speed. or overclocking the CPU and RAM along with slower boot up and some instability.

    Further thoughts, anyone?

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    I forgot to add that I have turned off in the BIOS the USB3, eSATA and other controllers that I don't use. That hasn't prevented the long delays on power up, though.

    I do have a number of BIOS voltage and timing settings left on AUTO. It seems a bit much to manually set so many of them when I am not making any change on them. And those same settings left on AUTO did not cause the slow boot up when I had only the original 3 sticks of RAM installed.

    More thoughts on this?

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    Last edited by MacG32; 09-05-2013 at 10:48 AM.

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    Yeah if I were motivated right now I'd try putting in all the ram settings manually instead of the xmp profile to do it.

    That is where I would start.

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD7 slow boot?

    I've never used XMP profiles. Always made all changes manually. Just left the AUTO settings on for items that I didn't change.

    I guess I'll keep trying to find the right combination of settings.

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