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Thread: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.




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    Default I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    ok my issues are this, has to be the bios on the motherboard or the motherboard its self.
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    running X06 bios;

    the issues are bandwith related and 116bsod`s on logging in and sometimes my cards are being shown as different pci express speeds cpuz bandwidth test will completely freeze the system up
    one card will be running at 99% the other at 40% or 60% and never at its proper 99%
    sometimes i will boot into windows and get past the logining in 116bsod to find that one of my cards is running at 99% all on its own, its roasting when i touch the gpu cooler
    sometimes it will boot up and crash at various spots due to the cards not being detected properly.... always bsod116 card could not reset - also in cpuz bandwidth test 1 card will be running at pce ex 3.0 16x @ pci express 3.0 8x
    and the other will be running at pci express 3.0 16x @ pci express 2.0 8x, lots of confusing stuff going on and im sure for defo that its a bios issue....

    now i have done the following tests.

    removed both cards
    put one card in top most slot then tested in windows, and everything is fine no issues, run 3 heaven benches and gpuz bandwidth test : pci express 3.0 16x @ pci express 3.0 16x
    then i pulled it out and tested the other card, again no issues
    then i pulled out that card and put it in the 3rd slot, again no issues everything works fine
    then i pulled out that card and put the other in the 3rd slot again no issues everything works.

    so thats me ruled out the cards
    and ruled out the possibility of a faulty pci express slot.
    so then i though what the hell and downgraded the bios to X02...
    and what do you know everything is working again as it should cards are being detected, though there is something still going on, cant really pinpoint it but if they take a look at the X04 and compair the changes with X02 with pci express detection they might see something but so far using X02 everything is working

    i just dont understand what they have done to X04 bios cause these above issues will probably be there in X05 and i would hate that.
    whats your thoughts guys cause i dunno whats going on with graphics cards and getting there proper detection. as something is screwy.

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    My system configuration :

    7950 slot 1 orange
    7950 slot 3 orange
    Creative ZXR sound card slot 4 orange
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    really need some help with this as X02 is fine at the minute but something makes me think its just a little more stable than the Crash fest X04.

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    BlueScreenView will show what crashed and/or caused your crash. Without the minidump, there's no telling how/why it happened.

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    atikmpag.sys atikmpag.sys+ae80 fffff880`07874000 fffff880`07912000 0x0009e000 0x520cbe12 15/08/2013 12:40:02
    dxgkrnl.sys dxgkrnl.sys+5d054 fffff880`07a93000 fffff880`07b87000 0x000f4000 0x5164dc49 10/04/2013 04:28:09
    dxgmms1.sys dxgmms1.sys+ff13 fffff880`07b87000 fffff880`07bcd000 0x00046000 0x5164dc13 10/04/2013 04:27:15
    ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+313bae fffff800`07e1a000 fffff800`08400000 0x005e6000 0x51fb06cd 02/08/2013 02:09:33 Microsoft® Windows® Operating System NT Kernel & System 6.1.7601.18229

    091413-32807-01.dmp 14/09/2013 21:13:26 0x00000116 fffffa80`101ad4e0 fffff880`0787ee80 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000002 dxgkrnl.sys dxgkrnl.sys+5d054 x64 ntoskrnl.exe+75b80 C:\Windows\Minidump\091413-32807-01.dmp 8 15 7601 262,144


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    Helpfull ?

    though you should know that what i said above was causing this issue to happen with graphics cards.
    when the bsod116 happens, one of my cards is roasting hot wich is not normal at all, also i have tested the cards in all slots single and switched about and they work perfect.
    enabled them both for crossfire and power on the system and thats when everything goes **** up, seems more so with X04 bios its terrible, but with X02 there is no issue apart from the bsod happening every 2 out of 10 boot ups, so X02 is almost optimal but not quite there yet, as for X04 its a niightmare.

    here is a upload of the dump file :

    Zippyshare.com - 091413-32807-01.dmp


    maybe you will have better luck on what the cause is but im fairly sure its the motherboard bios....
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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    Try reinstalling your DirectX drivers from here. That should get you fixed up.

    If you'd like to check all of your computer's drivers at once to see if they're up to date, you can do a web scan from DriverAgent here. It will need to install a little plug-in to be able to read all devices and driver versions. It's been a great and simple site for me to be able to keep everything up to date.
    Last edited by MacG32; 09-16-2013 at 01:59 AM.

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    Hi mate i have pretty much the latest drivers installed, as for DX redist, i already installed that a few times.
    could it be the same issue that NVIDIA was having with PCI express 3.0 GEN ? : issues they where having was : EDIT: If you guy's have i7 3930k Revision C1 don't even bother enabling this in your system you will encounter crashes, weird slowdowns, and even texture glitches or corruption as well as the infamous "TDR"

    Seems very familiar to what im getting, i wonder if our boards have PCI gen 3.0 issues.... ? ? then again i have not tried PCI express gen 2 always had it on auto or 3...
    any reports on the gigabyte oc board having pci express 3.0 stability and optimization issues ? hmmm

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    You can check if your PCI-E is actually at 3.0 with GPU-Z.

    Here's something I ran in to when I tested out F4b for my board. Since Ivy-E supports PCI-E 3.0, the BIOS enabled it. This changed caused my video card's configuration to change and I had to re-enable SLI again when booting again. I was using Nvidia's registry hack before that to enable PCI-E 3.0, like I am now. When configurations change that drastically, normally you need to reinstall your drivers, then DirectX.

    This thread seems to fit the help you need. I've seen it solved with as little as using "bcdedit /set useplatformclock true" all the way up to a RMA of the video card.

    Have you tried either of these two BIOS'? They may contain the updates needed to be stable.

    GA-Z87X-OC BIOS X04 mod (Special LN2)
    Modified with :
    Intel RAID for SATA 12.7.0.1936
    Intel EFI SataDriver 12.7.0.1936
    Intel Boot Agent GE 1.5.04 to 1.5.40
    Intel PCI Accelerated SVGA BIOS 2.1.77
    Intel GOPdriver 5.0.1033 to 5.0.1034
    Intel Haswell Microcode (06C3) 07 to 12
    Modified splash logo

    GA-Z87X-OC BIOS F7a mod
    Modified with :
    Intel RAID for SATA 12.7.0.1936
    Intel EFI SataDriver 12.7.0.1936
    Intel Boot Agent GE 1.5.04 to 1.5.40
    Intel PCI Accelerated SVGA BIOS 2.1.77
    Intel GOPdriver 5.0.1033 to 5.0.1034
    Intel Haswell Microcode (06C3) 07 to 12
    Modified splash logo
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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    Yeah mate i have tested those bios`s and they are the worst of the worst when it comes to optimization and compatibility with pci express ect.... X04 is based off F7a as they have similar same issues.
    X02 is based off official F6 and those are the most stable and working bios`s to date. even the card issues are almost 100% sorted with this bios but still there are slight issues and require more optimization....

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    i will test changing in bios to PCI gen 2 and yes GPUZ shows pci gen 3 enabled cause i have PCI gen 3 cards and PCI gen 3 motherboard/cpu.

    but there is still something dodgy about PCI gen and its optimizations, should just work but the cards seem to be fighting themselfs when in pci gen 3 with x04..

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by ViRuS2k View Post
    Yeah mate i have tested those bios`s and they are the worst of the worst when it comes to optimization and compatibility with pci express ect.... X04 is based off F7a as they have similar same issues.
    X02 is based off official F6 and those are the most stable and working bios`s to date. even the card issues are almost 100% sorted with this bios but still there are slight issues and require more optimization....

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    i will test changing in bios to PCI gen 2 and yes GPUZ shows pci gen 3 enabled cause i have PCI gen 3 cards and PCI gen 3 motherboard/cpu.

    but there is still something dodgy about PCI gen and its optimizations, should just work but the cards seem to be fighting themselfs when in pci gen 3 with x04..
    I know that both Nvidia and AMD have shaky drivers out right now. Hopefully they'll both get them straight soon. I know the feeling about using the latest BIOS'. They're coming across really unoptimized lately, with more bugs than fixes. I know AMD and Nvidia have both released burn up drivers in the recent past. Maybe GB is in the same boat...lol Good luck man.

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    haha well im trying :D thanks for the help so far, i will report back if PCI GEN 2 fixes the issues.

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    Default Re: I need expert help otherwise i am going to throw this motherboard out the window _ Gigabyte z87oc graphics cards issues crossfire issues.

    I was having the same issues with BSOD(116) on login. I'm running 7970's and the latest Catalyst beta. I fixed it by disabling all cpu power management features(c states, eist etc).

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