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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    One other question - since the Highpoint 640L is handling the SATA 3 Devices and I cannot change it's SATA Mode in the BIOS I got to assume it is locked into ACHI mode for the devices connect to it? So... what difference does it make if the Intel Controller is set to IDE Mode?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    With IDE mode? Probably lower performance and loss of hot plug capability for sata devices.
    I doubt that your sata3 hard drives will have any performance penalty.
    Don't worry about ATTO sequential read and write speeds with sata2 bandwidth, all we're doing right now is temporarily removing the 640L sata3 card to ensure that the card isn'trelated to your boot problems when you have one or more hard drives connected to the mobo's Intel sata2_2 through sata2_5 ports.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    ProfJim,
    The reason I posted the OTTO result was to show you that the 640L does a pretty darn good job of getting the most out of the SATA 3 SSD (538 versus your 278). Just to humor you I removed the 640L card, connected the SSD to SATA2_0, the Raptors to SATA2_1 and SATA2_3, the 750 WD Black to SATA2_5 and the DVD Burner to SATA2_2. The Intel Controller was set to AHCI. The BIOS hung at the end of the Post Routine showing "Verifying DMI Pool Data ........". Just in case you were going to ask, I disconnect the DVD Burner and the BIOS hung in the same place. So...it "ain't" the 640L that is causing the problem. I also booted with just the SSD in SATA2_0 and the D: Raptor in SATA2_1 (I've got the Paging File and a bunch of Windows Stuff on the D: Drive from back in the days when you were supposed to keep writes to a minimum on the SSD) and of course Window booted with no issues. I suspect the Intel Controller is failing. Any other ideas?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    The problem appears to be with one or more of the Intel sata2 motherboard ports.
    To simplify things, try booting while using only 3 of the sata2 ports:
    1. sata2_0, sata2_1 and sata2_2
    2. sata2_0, sata2_1 and sata2_3
    3. sata2_0, sata2_1 and sata2_4
    4. sata2_0, sata2_1 and sata2_5

    It's possible that one or more of the sata2 ports has failed.
    The cause might be due to a faulty sata2 data cable or one of the drives.
    This might be similar to a memory problem where you don't know if the problem is due to a defective memory slot or one of the memory modules.
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
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    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    ProfJim,

    I know SATA2_0 and SATA2_1 work in AHCI Mode. I know that SATA2_2, SATA2_3 and SATA2_4 cause the BIOS to hang when something is connected to one of them. First thing I tried was different SATA cables, multiple different working hard drives and finally re-flashed the BIOS. So...I set the Intel Controller to IDE and will call it a controller failure. I guess things wear out - I had used that system for many years as the primary always reliable machine.

    However, the ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/2600K has taken over that position and I am really impressed with the ASRock Z77 OC Formula/3770K/W8.1 system. Now, since I have an excuse, I am playing with a new 3570K in the GA-Z77-UD5H. It too seems like it is going to be a very good system. See my recent post on temps and Vcore. After fighting voltages and temperatures on the 3770K the 3570K runs cool and fast.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    Oops, I decided to approach the old Q9550 system with renewed vigor - and in the meantime used the WD Black 750GB drive to store video files. Once I got the WD Black 750GB drive out of the mix all is well. I ran the system with the Intel Controller set to ACHI in the following configurations:
    SATA2_0 OCZ SSD
    SATA2_1 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_5 DVD Burner

    SATA2_2 OCZ SSD
    SATA2_3 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_4 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_5 DVD Burner

    640L OCZ SSD
    SATA2_3 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_4 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_5 DVD Burner

    640L OCZ SSD
    SATA2_2 WD Black 500GB
    SATA2_3 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_4 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_5 DVD Burner

    640L OCZ SSD
    SATA2_1 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_2 WD Black 500GB
    SATA2_4 Raptor 300GB
    SATA2_5 DVD Burner

    All of these configuration work like they should in ACHI Mode. So...it has to have been the WD Black 750GB drive that was causing the problem with the Intel Controller in ACHI Mode. Seems strange since it works on the newer MB's. It was formatted on a W8.1 system before being moved to the Q9550 system?? Thanks again for your usual great support. You made me get to the bottom of this and kept my old Q9550 in the game!
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    Glad to hear that you solved the problem.
    I have several WD Caviar Black sata2 hard drives and I've never had a problem with win7 in AHCI mode when using the drives in my P35 system. I've used the 640GB, 750GB and 1TB drives connected to the Intel sata2 ports. I don't know if formatting the 750GB hard drive under win 8.1 has anything to do with the problem. WD tech support might be able to explain why you had the problem with the Intel sata2 ports.

    Thanks for the update.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    ProfJim,
    Last entry in this saga. I took the WD Black 750 GB drive to a W8.1 machine and wrote a whole bunch of video files to it. I took it back to the Q9550 system where it was hanging the BIOS or more probably the Windows boot system and it worked! I tried all seven SATA2 cables that I might have used when it was failing and they all worked with the 750 GB drive. The last thing I could do is reformat the drive on the W8.1 system and try it "empty" on the Q9550 system since that was the status of the drive when it was causing the problem. However, I got ~700 GB of files on the drive and really don't want to spend the time to rebuild it. I'm going to leave this mystery go unsolved for now!

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P/Q9550 Hangs in Bios

    I have the exact same problem!
    I've been running a WD 640 black hard drive as my main boot drive for years on the Intel controller in AHCI mode with no problems and then some time in September the Intel bios was getting flaky, sometimes hanging or just slow. It got to a point where it just failed to boot past that and I had to put the board into IDE mode for it to work. I thought that the bios some how got corrupted so I re-flashed it and all seemed okay after that (why I suggested re-flash to you). It has been fine until yesterday when the Intel bios hung again and a re-flash didn't help.

    Disconnecting the WD 640 it would boot just fine but I reconnected it again and the same **** happens. I didn't try it on any other ports but ended up putting on an add in PCIx sataIII card and my system is fine. Kind of sucked but I'm over it for now.
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