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    ToniCipriani is offline Junior Member
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    Default Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    Stumped on a problem here. Helped a friend built a machine, specs as follows:

    Gigabyte H87N-WIFI
    Core i5-4440 (stock voltage Auto)
    G.Skill 8GB DDR3-1600 (set to run on XMPP 9-9-9-24, voltage set to Auto)
    Crucial M500 240GB
    Powercolor Radeon 5770 1GB
    Western Digital (Black?) hard drive
    DVD-RW Drive
    Windows 7 Pro clean install
    OCZ ModXStream 600W PS, then swapped for a Seasonic G650 650W

    Initially I tested the machine it's fine, ran games and stayed on just fine. But after he brought it home, the machine seems to spontaneous restart when it's cold. It's not a BSOD since auto restart is set to off. Funny thing is, after the machine stays on for a while, it runs stable.

    I tried replacing the PS after reading all the horror stories with the OCZ and running it down to bare minimals, but it's still restarting on cold. I'm trying now with two of my own DIMMs (G.Skill Sniper 2x8GB). Initially it won't take both, it will keep cycling on and off. Took one out, it started, did a BIOS reset, put the second one back in and now it runs. Going to try a few more power on cycles after shutting down.

    Thoughts? Thanks.

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    what dram is the ram rated at? tried manually setting it? maybe 1.55v or 1.65v

    cold boots are usually ram setting/voltage related
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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    It's 1.5V.

    I am tempted to raise the VCSSA to try though. I had to raise my IMC and Vtt on my own Sniper M3 Z77 even though I wasn't overclocking. Not sure why but it cured my random BSOD, so was thinking if it's the same thing.

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    yeh it can be cpu memory controller voltage too

    not sure what its called on haswell,digi/analogue io I think
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    Memory controller voltage is called CPU v Ring, but for that setup, unless your overclocking, you shouldn't need anymore.

    Now the bad part.........Your problem sounds exactly the same as a problem I was having with my G1 Sniper Z87, with 2 sticks installed in dual channel I just kept getting error code 15, alot of people will tell you that error 15 is a memory problem, but in the manual it actually states, "Northbridge initialization error", but would work with 1 stick or both sticks in single channel mode, I spoke on the phone to a Gigabyte engineer who told me its either bent pins, the socket itself, or the CPU memory controller, so first I RMA'd the board, it was returned as not faulty to me, got rid of the board and brought a G1 Sniper 5, same problem, turned out to be the CPU after all, the replacement worked fine.

    I would only ever get this problem if I either switched the PSU off or unplugged the PSU, if there was power running to my machine, ie shut down but power LEDs still on, it would fire up first time every time.
    Last edited by Jamin280672; 04-19-2014 at 04:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    The POST problem went away, actually.

    I just went ahead and bumped up the System Agent voltage, did one test and it didn't reboot. Going to do another test and hopefully this cures it.

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamin280672 View Post
    Memory controller voltage is called CPU v Ring, but for that setup, unless your overclocking, you shouldn't need anymore.

    Now the bad part.........Your problem sounds exactly the same as a problem I was having with my G1 Sniper Z87, with 2 sticks installed in dual channel I just kept getting error code 15, alot of people will tell you that error 15 is a memory problem, but in the manual it actually states, "Northbridge initialization error", but would work with 1 stick or both sticks in single channel mode, I spoke on the phone to a Gigabyte engineer who told me its either bent pins, the socket itself, or the CPU memory controller, so first I RMA'd the board, it was returned as not faulty to me, got rid of the board and brought a G1 Sniper 5, same problem, turned out to be the CPU after all, the replacement worked fine.

    I would only ever get this problem if I either switched the PSU off or unplugged the PSU, if there was power running to my machine, ie shut down but power LEDs still on, it would fire up first time every time.
    You might be on to something. Went back to the store, they swapped the board and it didn't go away. Problem is convincing them to replace the CPU now...

    However I tried your PSU trick it didn't do it. It really only restarted if left overnight, even leaving it 2 hours sitting didn't do it.

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    Noticed one thing... On Gigabyte's site, it lists that the H87N-WIFI has an F5 BIOS, but I haven't tried it since it's not listed for the rev 2.0 board. However the F4 BIOS is cross listed for both 1.x and 2.0 revisions.

    Anyone tried flashing F5 to their 2.0 board? Safe to try?

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    not sure if its safe,it simply wont flash if its a different board
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

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    Default Re: Spontaneous restart on cold starts

    Quote Originally Posted by ToniCipriani View Post
    You might be on to something. Went back to the store, they swapped the board and it didn't go away. Problem is convincing them to replace the CPU now...

    However I tried your PSU trick it didn't do it. It really only restarted if left overnight, even leaving it 2 hours sitting didn't do it.
    In all honesty, and I think alot of people would agree with me, these Intel Haswell CPU's are a load of rubbish, my toaster runs cooler, the TIM inside them is cheap rubbish, and you have to void your warranty and delid it to get any slight performance out of them, on top of doing that, unless youu get a golden chip, they are rubbish overclockers.

    Hence Intel bringing out a new version of them.

    You will be the 3rd person (if it turns out to be your CPU) I know of to get one with a faulty memory controller, which is another negative against Haswell, you would expect better from Intel for a 250 chip, Rant over, and breathe
    Last edited by Jamin280672; 04-22-2014 at 03:51 AM.

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