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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z97 Boards Teazer

    I'm hoping the 4790k doesn't need deliding, has there been any testing to show it still does and benefits from it? I thought one of the "features" of it was that they replaced the crap thermal paste with better. Although I suppose there is probably still fact it's still machined and sub optimal.

    I'm hoping mine is a real good clocker but hard to tell. I'm not sure if 4.6 @ 1.258 is good or just average. I know my 4770k was below average. I only got it to 4.3 @ 1.226 and just to get it to 4.4 took 1.280 for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticalOS View Post
    I'm hoping the 4790k doesn't need deliding, has there been any testing to show it still does and benefits from it? I thought one of the "features" of it was that they replaced the crap thermal paste with better. Although I suppose there is probably still fact it's still machined and sub optimal.

    I'm hoping mine is a real good clocker but hard to tell. I'm not sure if 4.6 @ 1.258 is good or just average. I know my 4770k was below average. I only got it to 4.3 @ 1.226 and just to get it to 4.4 took 1.280 for some reason.
    There was never any problem with the TIM; it's the gap between the cpu & IHS that causes most of the heat problems. Delidding and scraping off all the adhesive lets the IHS sit lower to the cpu, thus making heat extraction more efficient.
    As for who delids, it's anyone that feels they are leaving something on the table due to high temps.
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    Soo, keep getting debug code "D4" on the mobo display. It pops up a lot at shut down, but as I am typing this, it is lit up, instead of the normal "OS".

    According to the handy manual...D4 means; PCI allocation resource error. Out of resources.

    Any clues?

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    I hope GiB does some more tweaking on the Z97 bios.....finite vcore control is pretty much out the window with my 4790K, IMO. For example a 1.24 vid gives 1.260 under load. It's a guessing game trying to step the vcore a little at a time. The board didn't respond quite this much to my 4770K so I wonder what's up.

    Anyway I had a chance to test up to 4.7 stable last night with 1.24 vid (1.260 vcore) with some prime 95 and it looks good so I'll step it up a little. At 4.7 my 4770K needs around 1.29 so the DC cpu is definitely looking better so far.....we'll see how it scales at higher clocks.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z97 Boards Teazer

    Its not just Z97 bios that has this issue my Z87 has same issue with 4790K Vid 1.33V in bios @4.8GHz but actual Vcore under load is 1.35V? My 4770K never did this!

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    that's usually down to loadline calibration boosting vcore slightly to counter vdroop under load

    just adjust the loadline calibration level and or the cpu vcore offset (dvid) to suit and lower the load cpu voltage
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z97 Boards Teazer

    FWIW, an Intel tech told me that the voltage range 4790k, goes up to 1.5.
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    I see the voltage do that too. I set mine to 1.258 and it actually does 1.272

    I still have it at 4.6. Running at 70C under load on noctua D14. I upgraded to a XSPC Raystorm AX360 Extreme Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit w/ D5 Variant Pump and it still runs at 70C under load. I'm baffled as to why the raystorm isn't better. I was hoping to shoot for 4.8-5.0 with best water cooler i could get and turns out to break even with best air cooling out there :\ Locked at 4.6 it is I guess. :\

    Taking it apart twice now I don't think I can fix the problem, i think that all around the block is poorly designed. it's so large because it's supposed to be a multi cpu block. The problem is, the socket bracket is taller than the cpu, so I think there is too big of a pocket between the block and the cpu itself because of the bracket. the noctua has a much smaller block that is only the size of cpu, so it sits on and presses against cpu more firmly. as good as water cooler is, it's no good if it's not tight enough. for a 300 dollar product you'd think they'd design a block that is better and isn't cooling the bracket assembly instead of the cpu. Unfortunately i can't record a product for being crappy.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte Z97 Boards Teazer

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    that's usually down to loadline calibration boosting vcore slightly to counter vdroop under load

    just adjust the loadline calibration level and or the cpu vcore offset (dvid) to suit and lower the load cpu voltage
    To the best of my knowledge you cant adjust LLC on Gigabyte Z87 boards,at least not for the Vcore...you do have one for Vrin though....
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    I have a new (delidded) 4790K, which can make 4.6Ghz 1.150V, 5Ghz IBT stable 1.387V..... I can't upload pictures
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