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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    After the sensor test:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-realtemp-test-jpg
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    and sensor test results after changing Tj max to 85:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-realtemp-test-2-png

    I know that the temperatures may seem low and I can't say for certain as I don't have a thermometer, but I think room temperature here (at night as I did the tests) is a few degrees less than 20°C so the lower Tj max results would appear to be the correct ones?

    Let me know what you think profJim!

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    and for good measure this was my latest attempt at TIM application:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-tim-jpg

    I'll probably re-apply after the exams and show you how that one worked out!

    I'm off to bed, last big push of studying tomorrow.

    My continued thanks for all your help and support!
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    The TIM on your cpu doen't look like a grain of rice, it looks like....uhh....umm....err....oh never mind.
    BTW, the blob of TIM is somewhat off-center and the resulting TIM pattern will be slightly off-center.

    RealTemp displayed data:
    1st row - cpu model -- current cpu speed -- cpu FSB x cpu multiplier <--- small text
    2nd row -- CPUID -- current cpu load % -- elapsed time since RealTemp started or was reset <--- small text

    4th row -- reported current core temps for core0, core1, core2 and core3 <-- large text
    6th row -- reported distance (how many degrees) each core is from TjMax <-- large text

    8th row -- the minimum temperature for each core <-- small text
    9th row -- the individual wall clock time that each of the minimum core temps occurred <-- small text

    11th row -- the highest temperature for each core <-- small text
    12th row -- the individual wall clock time that each of the highest core temps occurred <-- small text

    Thermal status = OK when none of your cpu cores barfed.


    Homework assignment:

    Step #1:
    Add one core's current temperature to it's corressponding Distance to TjMax.
    Do this four separate times, once for core0, core1, core2 and core3.

    Step #2:
    Repeat step #1 for your RealTemp window display after you set TjMax = 85.
    Do you feel bold enough to make a general observation?

    Step #3
    Do you notice any similarities between your Sensor Movement Tests with TjMax = 100 and TjMax = 85? Explain!!


    You're free to defer the homework assignment until after you've completed your exams.


    You have repeatedly said "thank you" in many of your posts and I appreciate it.
    Thank you's are the exception in the forum, not the rule.


    TjMax = 100



    TjMax = 85
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    Question Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    1 exam down, one to go! Gonna' have a go at that homework and then do a bit more studying for tomorrow :)

    Step #1:
    Add one core's current temperature to it's corressponding Distance to TjMax.
    Do this four separate times, once for core0, core1, core2 and core3.


    So... They all add up to TjMax (100)

    Step #2:
    Repeat step #1 for your RealTemp window display after you set TjMax = 85.
    Do you feel bold enough to make a general observation?


    These also add up to TjMax (85), general observation: because they're measured from TjMax, the temperatures aren't actually any cooler

    Step #3
    Do you notice any similarities between your Sensor Movement Tests with TjMax = 100 and TjMax = 85? Explain!!


    The distances to TjMax for both 85 and 100 are the same. I would (try to) explain this by acknowledging that I understand that the temperature is measured as a distance from TjMax and that during the test my CPU ran between 56 and 62.5 degrees away from its TjMax regardless of whether it's 85 or 100.

    I've read that you should aim to stay 30-40 degrees from TjMax to ensure stability and longevity and therefore even though I don't know what my correct temperatures are, maybe I should change to 'distance from TjMax' setting when overclocking?

    I don't know if this is the answer you were looking for and I'm really hoping that the X5460 TjMax is 85 and that my cooler isn't so much worse than those that you have found data on but I will work with what I have and be content with getting the best result I can.

    Where do we take it from here profJim? :)
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    You've done goodly and you understand the relationships in RealTemp.

    Next step? Set your cpu to it's stock speed: 9.5 x 333 = 3.16GHz and enable the bios power saving options EIST and C1E.
    Your windows power plan should use the Balanced option.

    Boot your system and let it idle for 30 minutes.
    Note the single current CPU temperature reading in HWiNFO which should be close to the ambient temperature.
    Your four individual cpu core temperatures should be in the low 20o(C) range in RealTemp and in the 35o(C) range in Core Temp and/or HWiNFO.

    Next you should run a 30 minute Prime95 test and note the maximum cpu core temperatures.
    I recommend running the default Blend test for now and for each test as you overclock higher.
    We want to be able watch your temperatures as you overclock higher.
    If the RealTemp core temperatures are reasonable, you can run LinX or IBT later.
    Core Temp, HWiNFO and RealTemp all can log their own sensor readings, but only have one of these programs logging at a time.
    My preference would be for HWiNFO to do the logging because it logs almost everything in it's list and we might see some voltage settings or other settings that could be part of the problem.

    This test is to help verify as best we can what your real DTS value is.
    Assuming that TjMax for your cpu should be 85, you could merely subtract 15o(C) from the HWiNFO or Core Temp displayed temperatures.
    Your single CPU temperature reading should have no relationship to setting TjMax to 85 or 100.

    After everything is OK at stock speeds, you can overclock to 3.30GHz or 3.60GHz and repeat these steps.
    You can try leaving EIST and C1E disabled as you overclock but this might cause some instability issues.

    When I run my tests I leave all my other programs running in the background because at idle my cpu utilization is only about 1% - 2%.

    I have no problem with 80o(C) core temperatures when running LinX or IBT stress tests (with TjMax=100) but I wouldn't be happy with my cpu core temperatures that high when running intensive programs such as video encoding for hours on end. My earlier 8 hour Prime95 Blend test had maximum core temperatures in the 60o - 65o(C) range with my earlier, higher cpu core voltage settings. My most recent LinX and IBT temperatures were still below 70o(C), but these tests only lasted for 10 - 12 minutes each.

    It will be interesting to see if your Xeon cpu has excess heat problems if the cpu core temperatures (with TjMax = 85) go higher than about 70o(C), which would be like my Q9650 running at 85o(C), where 85 minus 70 is "equal to" 100 minus 85.
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    So I changed the BIOS settings like you said and rebooted only to find it didn't POST. So I reduced the vcore right down to 1.23750V and it loaded Windows fine. I then changed to balanced power settings and am now waiting til 9:30pm to do the blend test. Just thought I'd post my BIOS settings since I haven't done so in a while:

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    Fine Clock Ratio __________________[0.5]
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    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)________[101]
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    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)_____[2.00]
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    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________12_[12]
     
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    Rank Write to READ Delay________3_[Auto]
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    Read to Precharge Delay__________3_[Auto]
    Static tRead Value_______________8_[8]
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    Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V
    
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    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ......: [Enabled]
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    Virtualization Technology..........: [Disabled]
    Full Screen LOGO Show.........: [Disabled]
    Init Display First............: [PEG]
    
    SATA AHCI Mode.........: [AHCI]
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    USB Controller...........: [Enabled]
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    USB Mouse Support..........: [Disabled]
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    HPET Support..........: [Enabled]
    HPET Mode.............: [64-bit mode]
    Power On by Mouse.............: [Double Click]
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    AC Back Function..................: [Soft-Off]
    
    
    PCI1 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
    PCI2 IRQ Assignment.............: [Auto]
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    So here is the idle screenshot after 30 mins (using the above BIOS settings):

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-3-15oc-jpg
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    and here is a screenshot at 30 minutes of the blend test:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-30min-blend-stock-jpg
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    ... and the sensor log for good measure:

    :)
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