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    Arrow Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    So I increased the Vcore anyways and gave it another go.

    Got into Windows fine and started Intel Burn Test and... Bluescreen.

    Here is the Idle screenshot and the BIOS settings:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-4ghz-3_9v-jpg

    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9] 
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [422] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    Performance Enhance = [Turbo]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
     
    CAS Latency Time_______________5_[5]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_[18]
     
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_Auto 
    Rank Write to READ Delay________3_Auto
    Write to Precharge Delay_________6_Auto
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_Auto
    Read to Precharge Delay__________3_Auto
    Static tRead Value_______________8_Auto
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_Auto
     
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.2V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.39375V]
    Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V
     
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Enabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] 
     
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled]
    What's the next step profJim?
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Telling us that you had a BSOD is next to useless.
    Your can provide useful BSOD information by running WhoCrashed or Blue Screen Viewer - Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    There is information on the Blue Screen View web page to properly configure windows to save mini-dump files.
    Some BSOD bugcheck codes are caused by incorrect cpu voltage.

    We don't know if your 3.60GHz setup passed any stress tests.
    Once your system is stable with lower overclocks, it's best to gradually increase your cpu overclock and test again.
    Using shortcuts when you are overclocking seldom work.
    It's best to o/c in steps with lower cpu speed overclock increases, such as 3.60GHz to 3.70GHz, 3.8GHz, 3.85GHz, 3.90GHz etc.

    It's best to overclock with EIST and C1E disabled while you are overclocking and testing.
    Once you've reached your o/c goal and passed your stress tests, you can then enable both of these settings and repeat your stress tests.

    With 2x2GB of memory, you might be able to use 1.80 - 2.00 (+0.20) dram voltage.
    MCH Core voltage = +0.10 might be adequate. When MCH Core is too high or too low, boot problems or instability problems can occur.

    Your memory is currently running at 842MHz and this shouldn't be a problem.
    In your original post, you used Performance Enhance = [Turbo] with 5-5-5-18 settings.
    Set Performance Enhance = [Standard] for now until your final o/c is stable, then you can retest and verify that your system is still stable with Turbo setting enabled.

    If you change multiple settings at one time, you won't know which of the altered settings fixed a problem or caused instability.
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    Smile Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Success at 3.8Ghz?

    Sorry I haven't replied for a while - exams fast approaching and studying has taken priority (keeps getting in the way!).

    So I went back and changed the vcore and the other BIOS settings but kept the 0.5x multiplier and Intel Burn Test ran without crashing for 5 tests (was playing it safe seeing as it crashed on all the other times).

    The highest temp was a brief 79, here is the 'after' screenshot and the BIOS settings:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-success-3-8ghz-jpg

    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [400]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [101]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
     
    CAS Latency Time_______________5_[5]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_[5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_[18]
     
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_Auto
    Rank Write to READ Delay________3_Auto
    Write to Precharge Delay_________6_Auto
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_Auto
    Read to Precharge Delay__________3_Auto
    Static tRead Value_______________8_Auto
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_Auto
     
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V]
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V]
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.38750V]
    Normal CPU Vcore________1.23750V
     
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
     
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled]
    How best to proceed?
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Success at 3.8GHz? Not quite.
    Progress ? Definitely

    Passing the IBT test is a start, now it's time to run the Prime95 Blend test for at least 3 - 4 hours.
    Follow the Prime95 instructions in post #9 and if there are no errors, you can try 9.5 x 411MHz = 3.905GHz.

    Your GFlops score is about 10% lower than it should be at 3.80GHz.
    This is possibly because of your AUTO setting for Static tRead Value (aka tRD).
    Memset reports this value as Performance Level and it is currently at 12.
    Repeat IBT one more time with tRD = 7 to see if your system is still stable and post the new GFlops score.
    Then you can perform the Prime95 Blend test.

    Attached is my Q9650 + P35-DS4 results at 3.80GHz.
    My GFlops score is a bit lower than normal because I set threads = 4 instead of using threads = AUTO.
    Your GFlops score will be somewhat higher if you can set stress level to 1536 or 1792MB.

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-q9650-3-818ghz-p35-ds4-ibt-8gb-828mhz-benchmark-2014-03-12-jpg
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Here is a teaser for you.
    This is the highest cpu speed that my Q9650 + P35-DS4 system will boot.
    I loosened some timings and bumped the cpu core voltage to 1.45 volts.

    These settings were a SWAG that happened to work the first time and probably aren't stable.
    I found my system's limits and quit while I was ahead.

    I didn't perform any additional stress tests because there is no way that I will run with cpu voltage this high.

    As I recall Q9550 or Q9650 IBT scores running at 4.20GHz with an EP45-UD3P motherboard were 55 - 57 GFlops.

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-q9650-4-140ghz-p35-ds4-ibt-benchmark-2014-03-12a-jpg
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    I changed the tRD to 7 and the system wouldn't POST so I tried 8 (I don't know if this was the right thing to do) and got into Windows.

    The Intel Burn Test ran successfully 10 times but there was a few 80Cs and a very brief 81C!

    The Gflops score didn't look much better :/

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-3-8ghz-trd-8-success-jpg

    What's the next step? Do I set the stress level higher? Or try to get the system working at tRD7? Or maybe stick with 8 and run the Prime95 blend test?

    Also, I feel like I haven't said it in a while so thanks again profJim!
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    You're welcome.

    The IBT GFlops scores averaged about 1 GFlop (2%) higher with tRD = 8, but the range of scores was much larger.
    This often means that cpu core voltage is a bit too low, but don't worry about that now.

    With 4GB of memory, you're somewhat limited to how high the IBT stress level can be set.
    As I recall when I was running with 4GB of memory, I could set the stress level to 1536MB or 1792MB.
    Click on the Stress Level Standard button to change how much memory IBT can use.
    You are limited to using less than the Available RAM value that is displayed in IBT.
    You can optionally check the Output results to results log box so that you can easily compare results from different tests.

    You made the right choice with increasing tRD from 7 to 8.
    Keep tRD = 8 and run the Prime95 Blend test to see if your system is reasonably stable.
    Once you've reached your overclocking goal, we can see about optimizing some of the memory timings.

    Are your push/pull fans running at full speed while IBT is running?
    FWIW, my low cpu core temps are due to my AIO water cooling setup, but I'll bet that your Noctua cpu cooler is much quieter than my setup.

    You've done a good job following instructions and posting useful screen-shots.
    Keep up the good work.
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    I'm running Prime95 whilst typing this, which to me is a good sign!
    Max temp of 71C (although it's only been 7 minutes)
    I think my push-pull fans are working at 100% but got a bit confused in Hardware Monitor and BIOS reports one fan at half the speed of the other (but I have another Noctua fan installed for the HDDs and 3 case fans also so not sure which one was half the speed.

    I think the system would be quieter if the case fans were replaced with noctua ones but I'm not too bothered about the noise just now.

    Your rig sounds awesome! After I've finished overclocking mine I'll be taking recommendations on cost-effective upgrades if you have any to offer!

    I'll post back later with (hopefully) a screenshot of a successful 3-4 hour test!

    All the best,

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well I think that's 3.5 hours but things look good to me!

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-3-8ghz-trd-8-stable-jpg

    Ramp up to 9.5x 411MHz?
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Sorry for mass-posting but I went and gave it a go and got the system unstable message at 3.9GHz...

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-unstable-3-9-jpg

    Time to step back?
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