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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    But first I'm gonna' let the system cool for 15-30 mins.

    In the meantime, this is for Jim:

    I think the verify function might be for a paid-for version of Macrium Reflect only?

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well you made a great call on LLC. In disbelief I tried disabling it myself and it literally made a breakthrough in my OC'ing progress. probably the mobo was being stressed too much with trying to keep the voltage steady, plus, inevitable voltage spikes in stress testing meant higher temps. Right now testing it at 4217Mhz with vcore at 1.416v idle; ~1.36v full load, bios ~1.46v.
    X5460 E0. I figured I need to test the RAM and CPU seperately, LGA775 mobos are typically very picky about DDR3, even the smallest change can either make it fully stable or cause bsods (f.e. atm only 400mhz strap looks stable REGARDLESS of selected RAM ratio). Now prime95@blend and OCCT are general system tests and they won't tell you if it's a CPU or RAM failing. So my combo at the moment is prime95@8k + HCI Memtest (preferably 150-200% pass). CPU so far confirmed to be somewhat stable (passed prime95 8k for 20min so I'am pretty sure it won't cause errors with HCI "real life" load), now testing the memory and if it's okay will run some "polishing" tests and save the OC profile. :)<style id="pageBrightnessCustomCSS">body{zoom:106%!import ant;}</style>
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    I'm glad to hear that you are both making progress with LLC disabled.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmOgER View Post
    Well you made a great call on LLC. In disbelief I tried disabling it myself and it literally made a breakthrough in my OC'ing progress. probably the mobo was being stressed too much with trying to keep the voltage steady, plus, inevitable voltage spikes in stress testing meant higher temps. Right now testing it at 4217Mhz with vcore at 1.416v idle; ~1.36v full load, bios ~1.46v.
    X5460 E0. I figured I need to test the RAM and CPU seperately, LGA775 mobos are typically very picky about DDR3, even the smallest change can either make it fully stable or cause bsods (f.e. atm only 400mhz strap looks stable REGARDLESS of selected RAM ratio). Now prime95@blend and OCCT are general system tests and they won't tell you if it's a CPU or RAM failing. So my combo at the moment is prime95@8k + HCI Memtest (preferably 150-200% pass). CPU so far confirmed to be somewhat stable (passed prime95 8k for 20min so I'am pretty sure it won't cause errors with HCI "real life" load), now testing the memory and if it's okay will run some "polishing" tests and save the OC profile. :)<style id="pageBrightnessCustomCSS">body{zoom:106%!import ant;}</style>
    Thanks, I'm not always right but I'm never wrong.

    Check out AnandTech | Overclocking Intel's New 45nm QX9650: The Rules Have Changed and the following page to better understand vdroop.
    The complete article is a must read for anyone doing high/extreme overclocks with LGA775 systems.

    A general guideline is that Prime95 errors with FFT < 128K are usually cpu errors and larger FFT errors are usually memory related errors.
    Earlier in this post I said that HCI Memtest was not as demanding as Prime95. I had several configurations that passed extended HCI Memtest runs but my system felt jerky and rough. Followup Prime95 testing proved that these configurations were not stable.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmOgER View Post
    Look at your last CPU-Z screen. You lowered your vcore from 1.328v to 1.264v, so don't expect it to be stable :P

    When you disabled LLC you need to increase cpu vcore to compensate for the vdroop.
    Correct!
    I think that you will find that vdroop, the difference between idle and full loads will be about 0.04 - 0.06 volts.
    The difference in cpu voltage between the value displayed in the bios and at the desktop with no additional load is vdrop.

    Cpu PLL will probably need to be set at 1.59 or 1.61, 1.57 will probably not be stable.
    VTT will probably need to be set 0.05 volts lower than Cpu Vcore.

    Here are some images from the AnandTech article:

















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    Exclamation Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well it passed 6 hours of blend but failed after 7 mins of Large FTTs:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-6-hour-prime95-blend-pass-3-80-llc-jpg

    (TjMax = 85C)

    I have now set CPU PLL to 1.59 but kept everything else the same - Should I be relaxing the memory settings since it failed Large FTT?

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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.0) - F11d
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    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [9X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.80GHz( 400x9.5)
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [400]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
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    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [Auto]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [Auto]
    x tRP.............................5...: [Auto]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [Auto]
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    x tRRD............................3...: [Auto]
    x tWTR............................3...: [Auto]
    x tWR.............................6...: [Auto]
    x tRFC...........................52...: [Auto]
    x tRTP............................3...: [Auto]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [Auto]
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
    x Static tRead Value.............8...: [Auto]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
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    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
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    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
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    x Static tRead Value.............8...: [Auto]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
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    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
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    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
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    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.100V]
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    A 6 hour Prime95 Blend test means that half of the time it was testing with Small FFT sizes and half of the time was testing with Large FFT sizes.
    I'm surprised that the Large FFT test failed so quickly after your Blend test ran error free for 6 hours.

    At this point including the Memset SPD panel is worthless.
    It's important that you always include the ET6 --> Advance --> Voltages window to confirm some of the applied settings.

    Run your test with Cpu PLL = 1.59 and see if runs error free.
    tRD = 9 for each memory channel with 824MHz memory speeds might be required.
    You might need to increase MCH Core to 1.22 or 1.24 volts.

    You might need to set cpu vcore up one or two notches to 1.38125 or 1.38750 volts.

    It's hard to read some of your screen-shot details with your current layout.
    Right click and copy your posted screen-shot, paste it into your image editing program and then enlarge the image and you will see how poor the quality is.
    I always save my screen-shots using the PNG file format to improve image quality.
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    Repeatedly saving the same JPG file format while you are making edits will result in significant image degradation.

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    The attached screen-shot is just a bit over the top where there is too much information in one image but all of the information should be readable.
    Ambient temperature while testing was 24o(C) or 75o(F).
    Maximum LinX cpu core temperatures were 67o(C) - 69o(C) with the Scythe Mugen 2 rev: B cpu cooler.
    Prime95 cpu core temperatures were about 9o(C) lower.

    My experiment with attaching this file would require a microscope to read it.
    The image is easily readable when it is linked from my DropBox account.

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    Exclamation Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    I apologise for the poor quality of the image but my mother took it at 2am with her phone camera as I was away and the test failed so it was better to shut down the computer...

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-blend-error-jpg

    I have 2 more failed-test screenshots but this is the most recent one.

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    Code:
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.0) - F11d
    ***************************************
    ***************************************
    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [9X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.80GHz( 400x9.5)
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [400]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 960
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [Auto]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [Auto]
    x tRP.............................5...: [Auto]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [Auto]
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter]
    x tRRD............................3...: [Auto]
    x tWTR............................3...: [Auto]
    x tWR.............................6...: [Auto]
    x tRFC...........................52...: [Auto]
    x tRTP............................3...: [Auto]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [Auto]
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
    x Static tRead Value.............8...: [9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
    x Static tRead Value.............8...: [9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter]
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
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    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
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    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.23750V.......: [1.38125V]
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.320V]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.59V]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.22V]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [Auto]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.100V]
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
    Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
    Quick Boot............................: [Disabled]
    First Boot Device.....................: [USB-HDD]
    Second Boot Device....................: [Hard Disk]
    Third Boot Device.....................: [Disabled]
    Boot Up Floppy Seek...................: [Disabled]
    Boot Up Num-Lock......................: [Off]
    Password Check........................: [Setup]
    HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Disabled]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
    Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [ 0]
    Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
    Bachup BIOS Image to HDD..............: [Disabled]
    Init Display First....................: [PEG]
    ******** Integrated Peripherals ********
    ICH SATA Control Mode.................: [AHCI]
    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode..............: [Enabled]
    Azalia Codec..........................: [Auto]
    Onboard H/W 1394......................: [Enabled]
    Onboard H/W Lan1......................: [Enabled]
    Onboard H/W Lan2......................: [Enabled]
    Green LAN.............................: [Disabled]
    Smart LAN1............................: [Press Enter]
    Smart LAN2............................: [Press Enter]
    Onboard LAN1 BOOT ROM.................: [Disabled]
    Onboard LAN2 BOOT ROM.................: [Disabled]
    Onboard SATA/IDE Device...............: [Enabled]
    Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode............: [AHCI]
    Onboard Serial Port 1.................: [3F8/IRQ4]
    Onboard Parallel Port.................: [378/IRQ7]
    Parallel Port Mode....................: [SPP]
    xECP Mode Use DMA.....................:  3
    USB Controllers.......................: [Enabled]
    USB Keyboard Function.................: [Disabled]
    USB Mouse Function....................: [Disabled]
    USB Storage Function..................: [Enabled]
    ******** Power Management Setup ********
    ACPI Suspend Type.....................: [S3(STR)]
    USB Device Wake-Up From S3............: [Enabled]
    Soft-Off by PWR-BTTN..................: [Instant-Off]
    PME Event Wake Up.....................: [Enabled]
    Power On by Ring......................: [Disabled]
    Resume by Alarm.......................: [Disabled]
    HPET Support..........................: [Enabled]
    HPET Mode.............................: [64-bit mode]
    Power On By Mouse.....................: [Double Click]
    Power On By Keyboard..................: [Disabled]
    AC Back Function......................: [Soft-Off]
    ******** PnP/PCI Configurations ********
    Resources Controlled By...............: [Auto]
    PCI Latency Timer (CLK)...............: [32]
    PC1 IRQ Assignment....................: [Auto]
    PC2 IRQ Assignment....................: [Auto]
    *********** PC Health status ***********
    Reset Case Open Status................: [Disabled]
    CPU Warning Temperature...............: [80C/176F]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning..................: [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN2 Fail Warning..............: [Disabled]
    POWER FAN Fail Warning................: [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN1 Fail Warning..............: [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control.................: [Disabled]
    I'm about to increase the vcore to 1.38750 and try again and if that fails, increase the MCH Core to 1.24 but if there's anything else you suggest let me know!
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    GUI.exe is the name of the ET6 program and it failed.
    Years ago there were many problems with running ET6 while stress testing.
    The workaround was don't have ET6 running while stress testing.

    I make my initial screen-shots before I start testing as part of my documentation.
    I shut down ET6 before I start Prime95 stress tests.
    I can later copy and paste HWiNFO or any other program windows to complete the screen-shot.

    With LLC disabled I expect that you will need to set Cpu Vcore to 1.38750 or possibly 1.39375.
    With your currently loose primary memory timings and 800MHz memory speed, MCH Core = 1.24 or 1.26 might be needed.

    Prime95 worker #2 failed 45 minutes after the test started, so it was probably near the end of the second large FFT test.
    Because your improved core temperatures are getting close to possibly throttling, I would normally increase MCH Core voltage before I tried increasing Cpu Vcore voltage. In your case increasing Vcore slightly is probably the best solution.
    HWiNFO shows the current (cpu) Vcore = 1.296 while stress testing and I'm pretty sure that this will have to be 1.312 volts or slightly higher for stability while stress testing.
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    Exclamation Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Another failure, hopefully a better screenshot!

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-12aug-22-50pm-failed-settings-jpg

    Bah! I only ever save my images once as PNG files but the site keeps compressing them so much that the quality degrades. Here is a link to an uploaded image that should hopefully be better quality:

    View image: 12 Aug 22 50pm failed settings

    I'm thinking of increasing MCH core to 1.24V and if that fails increasing vcore again. Does that sound about right?
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Your screen-shot above is easier to read when I copy it into IrfanView, but you ran into the same problem I had recently with my posted screen-shot in post #436. This problem happens when you have a very tall image, even though the image isn't very wide. Your screenshot is 470px wide and 1425px tall.

    I've had quite a few Prime95 rounding errors in tests that first occur after 3 - 4 hours. A little more tweaking should fix this.

    Your Vcore reading in HWiNFO is a bit strange.
    The 1.344 Vcore reading is probably sufficient.
    I'm pretty sure that the recommended VTT setting at least 0.05 to 0.10 volts lower than Cpu Vcore refers to the Vcore value that you set in the bios. With your current 1.38750 Vcore setting in the bios, I would be comfortable with VTT as high as 1.340 if needed.

    Try setting tRFC to 60 instead of the current setting = 52 and run a 4 - 6 hour or longer Prime95 blend test.
    Note: with 4 GB of memory, tRFC = 52 would probably be fine.
    If there are no errors I would then do a 4 - 6 hour Prime95 Large FFT test; again, longer is better.
    If needed my next step would be to increase VTT up one notch to 1.32 or MCH Core up one notch to 1.24.

    When I'm going to do an extended Prime95 test, I let my system "calm down" for 10 - 15 after booting.
    I then reset the HWiNFO settings and then enable HWiNFO logging.
    Next I let the system idle for 2 - 5 minutes and then start the Prime95 test.

    I have C1E and EIST enabled all of the time even when I'm tweaking and testing.
    This goes counter to the "conventional wisdom" from several years ago where the theory was that having one or both enabled while testing possibly causes additional instability.
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