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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well I've loaded Windows fine with just vcore changed to 1.4V and VTT to 1.36V and am about to run 5 loops of LinX at 2048MB:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-4-0-test1-jpg

    I'll probably head to bed afterwards but if it doesn't BSOD then I'll post a pass/fail screenshot.

    Backup will be checked tomorrow morning :)
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well that bluescreened after a matter of seconds...

    Maybe LinX will run too hot to test with from now on?

    I've attached the HWiNFO file just in case it shows anything useful:

    Zippyshare.com - 4.0 LinX.CSV

    I'll try running prime blend tomorrow and make any further changes if you have time to recommend any.

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    The HWiNFO CSV log file did not show anything out of the ordinary.
    Within about 12 seconds of starting the log file, cpu temp rose to 80o(C) and the individual cpu core temps rose to ~ 65o(C).

    I suggest that you try a more modest o/c to about 3.85GHz (9.5 x 405MHz) or 3.90GHz (9.5 x 411MHz).

    Once the 3.90GHz setting is stable, you might need to increase each additional o/c using ~50MHz increments.

    The other alternative that I do not recommend is to try using much larger voltage increases as necessary.

    Sorry, you're past the point of relatively easy 200MHz cpu speed increases.
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    Default Re: Macrium Reflect Backup Software

    I got the current Reflect software properly installed and working after I first disabled my BitDefender antivirus software.

    They have removed the Verify backup function while you are creating the backup image files.

    When you go to the Restore an image window, there is an option where you can verify the integrity of any of your Reflect image files.

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    note: Reflect will prompt you for the INF file to be loaded if your usb 3.0 add-in card has its own, non-Intel drivers.
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    It took just over 12 minutes to verify the full disk image.

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    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    I don't know if this will give any diagnostic value (where can I find a guide that tells me how to interpret the results of failures from prime95 and LinX?!?!) but I tried LinX at 3.85GHz, keeping vcore at 1.4V and VTT at 1.36V with no luck:

    Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock-3-85-linx-fail-jpg

    I have no idea how to tell what changes I should try other than your guidance Jim!
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Ok so here is the drill.

    PC is rock stable at X5460 SLBBA 4Ghz (421*9.5) 1.3v vcore with RAM at ~1360Mhz 7-7-7-20.

    At 4.2Ghz (447*9.5) CPU itself is rock stable with 1.4v (could drop this a little possibly), but RAM is semi-stable only at ~1130Mhz 9-9-9-24), and even then it can pass 150% coverage of HCI Memtest, but triggers memory related BSODS when there is high RAM activity (games/video editing/intensive multitasking)... vDimm and NB overvolting doesn't seem to help, tried NB as high as 1.5V (at 421FSB it's perfectly stable under 1.3v) and vDimm as high as +0.3v (1.8v DDR3).

    At this point I don't even know what else I can do... Adjusting subtimings (and PL) doesn't help much. At best it can slightly reduce the frequency of BSODs by drastically reducing the RAM bandwidth. The only thing I can think of which could be causing those issues is maybe mobo is incorrectly adjusting some or one of the timings which can't be manually overridden in bios. But why would it do that only when FSB is above 421FSB...

    Any ideas?

    PS. Tried several memtables extracted from another ASUS LGA775 DDR3 mobos, didn't seem to make much difference.
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    I'm doing some small investigations to try and improve my overclock.

    I booted up at 4.0GHz (9.5x422) with all the settings the same as my stable 3.8 overclock except MCH Core which I increased one notch to 1.26V.
    I ran prime95 small FTTs and almost instantly, worker 2 failed.
    I increased the vcore one notch at a time up to 1.45V (increasing VTT when needed to keep the distance to vcore clost to 0.05) and repeated the small FTT test each time.
    Worker 2 never made it past Test 2.

    I've now relaxed 'Performance Enhance' from Turbo to Standard and decreased vcore and VTT back and am increasing them again, one notch at a time to see what happens. As I'm typing, worker 2 just failed in 0 minutes at vcore= 1.38750, VTT= 1.34...

    Please guys don't hesitate to tell me if I'm doing something wrong or have missed anything!
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    What's your RAM running at?
    Does it fail on prime95 small fft just as quick? If not, your problem is most probably with RAM or NB/MCH, if that's the case try increasing MCH/NB to 1.3v and maybe give a RAM 0.05v above stock voltage.

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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    For everything I've tried at 4.0GHz so far worker 2 is still almost instantly failing with small FTTs. RAM is at 2.1V - I think it is rated for up to 2.2-2.3V. MCH Core (NB) I have tried up to 1.3V so far...
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    Default Re: Socket 771 Mod Xeon X5460 GA-P35-DS3L Overclock

    Well if it's small fft failing then it's not the RAM.

    What's your PLL voltage at?
    GTLs?

    Oh and btw, that vcore numbers you are reporting should be voltages under FULL LOAD, cause bios or idle voltages are irrelevant now. As I said before, my previous C0 did 4Ghz on 1.38V (full load), so your stable voltage should probably be in 1.36-1.405v range.
    Last edited by SmOgER; 08-17-2014 at 06:13 AM.

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