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    Question GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Thinking about upgrading my pc with a Samsung 120 GB SSD840 EVO drive.

    Im using currently two 500gb HDD's in RAID 0 on the GA-P35-DS4 mobo, both connected to the intel sata2 ports (ICH9R chipset). This mobo has also a JMicron 36x controler.

    First question would be: does it make any sense to upgrade my current pc with an SSD?

    And well, if the answer would be yes.. I would ask how to set it all up on those controller's for best performance?

    Preferably i would keep the HDD's in RAID 0 for storage, and the SSD would go as a system partition.

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    I have been using an ssd/hdd combination for almost four years on three different motherboards; P35-DS3L, P35-DS4 (rev 2.0) and EP45-UD3P (rev 1.1) and I highly recommend this setup.

    For best performance use the Intel sata2 ports with the o/s ssd connected to the sata2_0 port and the hard drives to the sata2_1 and sata2_2 ports. The Gigabyte/JMicron sata2 ports have lower performance.

    There are a lot of good suggestions in the http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...-capacity.html thread.

    Install the operating system with all hard drives disconnected to avoid a "misplaced" MBR (Master Boot Record) for your ssd.

    For optimal ssd longevity and performance you should use the Samsung Magician software to configure an over provision area on your ssd that uses at least 10% of the ssd's capacity. Using a larger O/P area is better. I suggest setting aside 25% for the O/P area. With my Samsung 256GB 840 Pro ssd, I enabled Samsung's Rapid feature and got much higher ssd benchmark scores, but I did not notice any increased real world ssd performance.

    With the current ssd prices see if you can afford to buy a 250GB Samsung EVO ssd which should provide better performance in the future if you install the o/s ssd in a newer sata3 system.

    SAMSUNG, Internal SSDs, 2.5", 91GB - 128GB, 129GB - 256GB, evo - Newegg.com

    The most important benchmark statistics are the small file, 4K scores.



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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    This is a screen-shot that shows AS SSD benchmarks that I posted in another thread.

    You might find that running with Rapid mode enabled provides better real world performance.

    GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD-assd-samsung-840pro-830-q9650-e6300-using-p35-ds4-p35-ds3l-3x-screenshots-jpg
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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Thanks for the replies! Im gona order the 250 gb EVO model, but i don't know what settings i should use in my BIOS. Is it possible to keep the 2 HDD's i have now in the RAID 0 and just connect the SSD to the sata2_0 port? Or im supposed to give up with the RAID 0 and just use the AHCI mode for all 3 drivers on the intel chipset?

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Do not change from RAID mode! There is no need to change to AHCI whatsoever.

    RAID mode has all the features that AHCI mode does, and a single, non-RAID drive is in affect operating in AHCI mode. You can set RAID as the SATA mode in the BIOS, and never create a RAID array, but have SSDs operating in AHCI mode just fine.

    You don't need to change anything to have your SSD run optimally, RAID mode is AHCI mode for any single drive.

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    You're welcome.

    I'm currently running my systems in raid mode, even though I don't have any raid arrays!!
    You shouldn't have any problems installing windows to your new ssd, as long as you first disconnect your current hard drives.
    The only issue you might have is with windows still installed in your hard drive raid array.

    I think that your current raid array will be OK after you have installed your new ssd and reconnected the hard drive array.
    parsec is a very knowledgeable forum member who has a lot of raid experience.
    I've sent him a PM to him to look at your thread and correct me if I'm wrong.

    You should be able to install and activate windows using your current windows license key.

    Let us know how everything works out.
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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    oops, parsec read my mind and replied before I sent him the PM.

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Think and ye shall receive, Prof Jim...

    mrsN1, as Prof Jim said, do not have any other drives connected to the PC (simply removing power from your HDDs will be enough) while installing Windows on your SSD.

    BE SURE to have the SATA mode set to RAID before you begin installing Windows!! If you don't you'll have problems later if you try to change to RAID mode.

    About one of your original questions, yes it will be great using a SSD on your PC, even if it is "only" SATA II. You'll get most of the benefits of using a SATA III SSD, but it won't be quite as fast as on a SATA III SATA controller. It will be much faster than any HDD, period.

    BTW, if you get the Samsung SSD and then install the Samsung SSD Magician software, you'll find that the software does not seem to like RAID mode. It will tell you that you are not using AHCI mode, but that is not really true. I guarantee you will have all the benefits of AHCI mode with your SSD. So nothing to worry about.

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Thanks again guys.

    Bought it today, installed the o/s on the ssd drive - basically done everything as you said.
    After installing all the drivers i have connected the HDD's, and just for some reason the Samsung Magician aint working properly now:
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    What could it be?

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    Default Re: GA-P35-DS4 with 2x HDD's and one SSD

    Magician is probably not seeing the drive through the raid properly. I'm guessing not all the commands are being read.

    Now having 2 EVO's myself (1TB and 256GB), I highly recommend you read this link; Samsung 840 EVO Performance Restoration Tool preview - Getting EVOs back up to speed | PC Perspective

    it's from PC Perspective and they found a slow down flaw with EVO's when they get filled... only the original 840's (non-pro) and the EVO's have this issue. I have applied the fix on my 1TB and she's just as zippy as the day I installed her.

    I'd buy an evo again.

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