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    Default Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    MB is (still) working great.

    I'm using 6 SATA ports out of 7 (not #4) and wondered if I could still use the ESATA port for an external drive system.

    The manual is a little confusing since it lists:

    On Intel Z68
    2x 6Gb/s, SATA 0+1
    3x 3GB/s , SATA 2,3 & 4
    1x eSATA 3GB/s (no port designation)

    On Marvell 88SE9172 Chip
    2x 6Gb/s SATA 5&6

    Some MB's limit SATA ports if the eSATA is used, not sure if this applies to this MB.

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    The Intel Z68 chipset on your board has the typical (for Intel) six SATA port capability.

    Since only five of those ports are designated as standard SATA ports, the eSATA port must be the sixth Intel SATA II port. That's good too, since currently eSATA ports are supplied by third party chipsets that tend to be not the best in terms of performance and stability.

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    Actually there are a total of 8 sata ports.
    From the Z68X-UD3H-B3 (rev: 1.3) user manual:



    As parsec said, use the Intel chipset sata ports, not the Gsata ports controlled by the Marvell controller.

    From the AnandTech review of the GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3:
    With regards to the SATA connections, we have three (internal) SATA 3Gb/s connections and four SATA 6Gb/s ports. There is an eSATA port on the I/O of the motherboard which takes the total of SATA 3Gb/s ports to four. Two of the four SATA 6Gb/s ports are controlled by a separate controller – a Marvell 88SE917. These are colored gray and have support for RAID 0 and 1. The rest of the SATA ports are controlled by the Intel Z68 chipset and allow for RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10. You are able to create a RAID array across the SATA 3Gb/s and 6Gb/s ports although the performance may vary (according to Gigabyte).

    After comparing to other motherboards, the SATA layout is a tad odd. On most motherboards, you would typically find a row of SATA connectors that are adjacent to each other and then color-coded accordingly. Even though it is only one port which points out of the board and the rest stick out of the side, it looks odd and it doesn’t make sense why this has been done.
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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    What a nice crew here .

    Exactly:

    The white SATA 6Gb/s (0+1) and 3 black 3Gb/s (2-4) ports are from Z68
    The 2 grey SATA 6Gb/s ports are from Marvell 88SE9172.

    PS thanks for the pics, I just put the case covers on....

    With 1 SSD and 5 HD's in the server, I tried to use the 6Gb/s ports first.

    That's why I asked about using the external eSATA port vs USB 3.0 if I added a few 3TB HD's that I have as long-term backups.

    You both answered my question and together then some. So the eSATA is only 3Gb/s, I could add a drive box externally or another HD internally, both are just SATA II.

    PS: Assuming its works, is the Marvell 6Gb/s faster than the Z68 3Gb/s?

    eSATA (SATA II) or USB 3.0?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    You're welcome.

    I'm pretty sure that the eSata connection will provide better overall performance than the usb 3.0 setup, especially when reading or writing small files.

    I doubt that hard drives connected to the Marvell sata3 ports will have any better performance than the Intel sata2 ports.
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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    Well, I added the HD box and managed to get it working with USB 3.0, but no joy with eSATA either via MB or SATA2_4 run to my eSATA port on the case. Also, via USB I get no smart data about the HD from Covecube Scanner. I will spend some time with the covers off again and see if I can fix that.

    I don't see in the manual which SATA port must be open to use the onboard external eSATA port.

    Since this is my server its quite possible that the issue is drivers for WHS2011 my OS.

    Just a thought, is there any MB/Chipset combo that will work with Intel 1150 CPU and provide more SATA 6GB connectors? Preferably from the onboard chipset.

    I know its a chipset limitation, but its been a while since I avidly followed chipset development.

    I don't mind speculating on a new MB, but changing the PC doubles or triples the upgrade cost. Possible, but not my preference.
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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    Quote Originally Posted by Britgeezer View Post
    Well, I added the HD box and managed to get it working with USB 3.0, but no joy with eSATA either via MB or SATA2_4 run to my eSATA port on the case. Also, via USB I get no smart data about the HD from Covecube Scanner. I will spend some time with the covers off again and see if I can fix that.

    Since this is my server its quite possible that the issue is drivers for WHS2011 my OS.

    Just a thought, is there any MB/Chipset combo that will work with Intel 1150 CPU and provide more SATA 6GB connectors? Preferably from the onboard chipset.

    I know its a chipset limitation, but its been a while since I avidly followed chipset development.

    I don't mind speculating on a new MB, but changing the PC doubles or triples the upgrade. Possible, but not my preference.
    There is no chance of getting SMART data over a USB interface. USB is a packet interface that is unrelated to SATA. The SATA to USB interface in the HD box converts the SATA data stream into USB packet data, ignoring anything in the SATA data stream besides the pure user data.

    You may need to set a BIOS option to activate the eSATA port.

    Your question about a different mother board confused me. The CPU in your Z68 board is a socket 1155 processor, not 1150, and won't work in socket 1150 boards.

    The last socket 1155 chipset boards, like the Z77, still only have two Intel SATA III ports.

    The Intel Z87 and a few of the other 8 series chipsets, and Z97 boards, have (or can have depending on configuration) six Intel SATA III ports. But they are all socket 1150 boards, that won't work with the processor in your Z68 board.

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    This may be my issue. Not sure if port multiplier is supported - will remove all but one drive to find out.

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    I checked the Intel datasheet for their 6 series chipsets, Intel® 6 Series Chipset and Intel® C200 Series Chipset, and found this:

    Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3-intel-pch-port-multiplier-png

    Thought this might save you some time and work.

    The 8 series chipset datasheet said the same thing, so it seems that has not changed. I don't have the 9 series chipset datasheet... yet, haven't looked lately, could be available.

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    Default Re: Question re GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 (Rev 1.3

    And the add-in card you choose, make sure it's a Silicon Image chipset. They support the FIS based switching that you Mediasonic box requires to access its four drives.

    From personal use with my LaCie Biggest S2S 5 drive boxes I'd recommend:
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    May need/want to flash it's firmware. From within Dev Mgr's Properties box this is a breeze. Then simply install the correct driver.

    Also
    Rosewill RC-219 Silicon Image PCI Express eSata x2 NCQ non-RAID SATA II Controller Card - Newegg.com


    There's the below on from Mediasonic but I'd stay away from it as it uses the ASMedia 1061 chipset:
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