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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    Saving power isn't the reason, I've had a few occasions where somewhat higher than needed voltage caused a system to feel rough or ragged. All we have to go on right now is the OP's bios template where he posted that the DRAM Voltage is set to 2.00 volts which is reasonable, but we both know how easy it is for the posted bios settings to have one or more errors.

    The datasheet for his HyperX memory kits say "Timing Reference: 5-5-5-18 at +1.8V / 5-5-5-15 at +2.2V" and I interpret this to mean "up to 2.2V" where it is safe to run all modules up to and including 2.20 volts. My personal approach might be to test his system with DRAM Voltage = 2.10 volts initially and then go higher (within limits) or lower lower as needed. My VTT suggestion was just that, a suggestion that might help.

    I've had quite a bit of experience overclocking with 8GB kits of HyperX ddr2-1066 memory on 3 different EP45-UD3P systems and one P35-DS4 system. My current Prime95 Blend test has just passed the 11 hour mark with no errors and is still going strong. Does this mean that my settings from post #27 will work for others with similar systems? Of course not! They might fail badly or they might work great.

    I'd really like to know why my stable P35 and P45 settings are much lower now than they were with similar LGA775 systems 5 to 8 years ago.
    It sure is nice using higher end ddr2 memory kits, especially when you're working with matching 4 x 2GB kits.

    Chike do you remember years ago when I had the following words of (dubious) wisdom in my forum signature?

    I'm not always right, but I'm never wrong.

    Compromise and do it my way.
    Ah, the good old days when you, Psycho101 and I would offer somewhat different overclocking approaches.
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    Q9550 @ 3.825GHz -- 8GB HyperX T1 PC2-8500 memory using 5-5-5-15 @ 1080MHz -- tRD = 8

    the good: Prime95 Blend test ran for 16 hours, 10 minutes with no errors.

    the bad: Number of tests completed by each worker thread: 787, 776, 803, 724


    bios settings screen-shot in post #27
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    So my system is close to being stable at standard cpu clock....close...but no sigar..
    You got me puzzled, guys..how should I proceed?
    Raising the RAM voltage from 2.0 to 2.1?
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    don't see many other options, 2.1-2.3v, and write down the size of failed FFT it may shorten test time.

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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    Your first worker error was with FFT size = 2800K and the second error was with FFT size = 384K.

    Chike is suggesting that you increase your DRAM voltage and to run a custom test with different low and high FFT sizes.

    Using the Run a Torture Test window:



    1. click the Blend Test option, this will select the default Blend options
    2. click the Custom option, now you will be able change some of the settings from step #1
    3. change the Min FFT size to 320K
    4. change the Max FFT size to 2864
    5. don't change any of the other Torture test settings
    6. click OK and run the test for at least 3- 4 hours or until you get a worker thread error.


    This modified test will test a subset of your memory and should produce any worker thread errors much sooner.

    It will help if you include the Memset screen and the ET6 screen that shows the Power On and Target voltage values for your setup.

    Do NOT have ET6 running while you are running Prime95 or any other tests.


    Any questions?
    Last edited by profJim; 11-21-2015 at 01:39 AM. Reason: left out the second step
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
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    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
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    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    Another option is to set the Min FFT size and Max FFT size to the FFT size that had a worker error.

    Your system might be stable if there are no worker errors after a one hour test for each of the FFT sizes that had errors.

    If you have HWiNFO running during the test you can make sure that temperatures and voltages are OK.

    The easiest way to check this is to enable sensor logging in HWiNFO and check the results in the saved logging file and looking at the results near the time of any worker errors.
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    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    I did what you proposed above.
    Setting the min and max FFT size I could only do in 'Custom' not in 'Blend' though.
    I raised the RAM voltage from 2.00 to 2.10.
    4,5 hours of Prime95 without errors....

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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    Sorry, the second instruction should have said to select the Custom test after you first selected the Blend test.

    If you selected the Custom test after you first selected the Blend test, your system is probably stable and you can test this by running the remaining two Prime95 tests without changing anything in the Custom test option.

    In you bios, what are the DRAM voltage options between 2.00 and 2.10 volts?
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    I'm afraid with the GA-P43-ES3G between 2.00 and 2.10 there is NOTHING.....
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    Default Re: BIOS tweaking or best BIOS settings GA-P43-ES3G (rev. 1.1)

    OK, that tells us that your motherboard's bios options can't be fine tuned as well as with the EP45 motherboards.

    There's nothing wrong with using 2.10 volts with your memory, if that's what it needs for stability.

    Looking at your last screen-shot I see FFT length = 160K. Depending on the minimum and maximum FFT sizes you entered, those should have limited the range of FFT lengths that were used if you first selected the Blend option and then selected the Custom option where you limited that range of FFT sizes to be tested.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
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