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    Default Getting Ready To Go SSD - Win10 From HDD - Win7 on GA-Z77X-UD5H Currently RAID1

    Hi, Its been a long time and I am very rusty sine I made this build and you guys helped me dial it in. Now I want to go from Win7 HDD to Win10 SSD and need your advice. I'll be running the OS on a Sandisk X400 1TB. I will be using a 1TB WD Black WDC WD1001FALS-0 (931 GB) for the storage and stuff that cashes a lot I guess. I think I will just power down and flip the switch to the 2nd BIOS. Unplug the RAID1 Array. Install the SSD. Boot to the BIOS and make sure its not set to RAID and it sees the SSD as the boot up drive? Then install Win10? What do you think? Thanks
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    Default Re: Getting Ready To Go SSD - Win10 From HDD - Win7 on GA-Z77X-UD5H Currently RAID1

    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Hi, Its been a long time and I am very rusty sine I made this build and you guys helped me dial it in. Now I want to go from Win7 HDD to Win10 SSD and need your advice. I'll be running the OS on a Sandisk X400 1TB. I will be using a 1TB WD Black WDC WD1001FALS-0 (931 GB) for the storage and stuff that cashes a lot I guess. I think I will just power down and flip the switch to the 2nd BIOS. Unplug the RAID1 Array. Install the SSD. Boot to the BIOS and make sure its not set to RAID and it sees the SSD as the boot up drive? Then install Win10? What do you think? Thanks
    How's it going up there in Georgia, guy?
    You going to do the free update or a clean install? If the former, then just reinstall 7 on your new SSD and let MS do the update.
    You should be able to unplug your RAID disks, plug in your SSD and go straight to the BIOS and set AHCI instead of RAID. Or just load optimized defaults, save and reboot to your install disc/usb stick.
    Make sense? At any rate nothing difficult here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Hi, Its been a long time and I am very rusty sine I made this build and you guys helped me dial it in. Now I want to go from Win7 HDD to Win10 SSD and need your advice. I'll be running the OS on a Sandisk X400 1TB. I will be using a 1TB WD Black WDC WD1001FALS-0 (931 GB) for the storage and stuff that cashes a lot I guess. I think I will just power down and flip the switch to the 2nd BIOS. Unplug the RAID1 Array. Install the SSD. Boot to the BIOS and make sure its not set to RAID and it sees the SSD as the boot up drive? Then install Win10? What do you think? Thanks
    I just did something similar last weekend; here are the basic steps I followed. I strongly suggest a clean install of Windows 10, do not install windows 7 first. Windows 10 allows a clean install when using a Windows 7 key to upgrade.


    1. Remove the current drives from the system and install the SSD.


    2. Update BIOS to the latest, load optimized defaults and fine tune from there. No overclock until everything is done. VERY IMPORTANT: enable UEFI boot and secure boot. You need this to ensure you get a UEFI/GPT partition and secure boot enabled.


    3. Download the Microsoft Windows 10 media creation tool and build a USB installer stick for Windows 10.


    3a. Here is the tool: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
    3b. You can learn more about it here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10
    3c. If you don't already have your Windows 7 install key written down, use one of the many key recovery tools to get it before you start.
    3d. Belarc Advisor: Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit, for software, hardware and security configuration information on your computer. Software license management, IT asset management, cyber security audits, and more.
    3e. KeyFinder | Magical Jelly Bean
    3f. ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server


    4. Make sure your SSD has no partitions on it (or delete them before you install windows 10)


    5. I would setup your drive in the Intel RAID bios as a single drive RAID 0 array. This will make it easier later on to add additional drives to the array without having to reformat, and still allows TRIM and other SSD features to work.


    6. Boot from the USB stick and install Windows 10.


    7. Open disk manager and verify you have a GPT partition table. If not, then adjust your BIOS settings and redo the install.


    You can now install antivirus, get windows updates, install applications and then reattach one of your RAID 1 drives to copy the data back.


    Here are a few articles you should consider:


    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...rosoft-account
    http://bgr.com/2015/07/30/windows-10...tion-settings/
    http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10...ow-to-opt-out/
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=50766
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-restore-point
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ord-reset-disk
    http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...ecovery-drive/

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    I just did something similar last weekend; here are the basic steps I followed. I strongly suggest a clean install of Windows 10, do not install windows 7 first. Windows 10 allows a clean install when using a Windows 7 key to upgrade.


    1. Remove the current drives from the system and install the SSD.


    2. Update BIOS to the latest, load optimized defaults and fine tune from there. No overclock until everything is done. VERY IMPORTANT: enable UEFI boot and secure boot. You need this to ensure you get a UEFI/GPT partition and secure boot enabled.


    3. Download the Microsoft Windows 10 media creation tool and build a USB installer stick for Windows 10.


    3a. Here is the tool: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209
    3b. You can learn more about it here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10
    3c. If you don't already have your Windows 7 install key written down, use one of the many key recovery tools to get it before you start.
    3d. Belarc Advisor: Belarc Advisor - Free Personal PC Audit, for software, hardware and security configuration information on your computer. Software license management, IT asset management, cyber security audits, and more.
    3e. KeyFinder | Magical Jelly Bean
    3f. ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server


    4. Make sure your SSD has no partitions on it (or delete them before you install windows 10)


    5. I would setup your drive in the Intel RAID bios as a single drive RAID 0 array. This will make it easier later on to add additional drives to the array without having to reformat, and still allows TRIM and other SSD features to work.


    6. Boot from the USB stick and install Windows 10.


    7. Open disk manager and verify you have a GPT partition table. If not, then adjust your BIOS settings and redo the install.


    You can now install antivirus, get windows updates, install applications and then reattach one of your RAID 1 drives to copy the data back.


    Here are a few articles you should consider:


    https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...rosoft-account
    http://bgr.com/2015/07/30/windows-10...tion-settings/
    http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10...ow-to-opt-out/
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down....aspx?id=50766
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-restore-point
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ord-reset-disk
    http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...ecovery-drive/
    Ah, good idea on the clean install. I forgot you could do that now....when I changed mine over it didn't/wouldn't work that way.
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    Thanks Guys, and its great to see you are still around "boondocks"! I owe you for all the guidance in the past. I have the USB media stick ready. I also have the key on the Win74 Pro 64 bit DVD case. I am not going to go RAID again. It is like a run flat tire but if a virus or malware gets on one its on both. So I am going to just do disciplined backups. I have a WD Black 1TB HDD I will be using for program storage. And several other HDD's for BU's. I hear doing the separate program storage to a HDD saves on writes but am not sure its worth it. I don't game or do much video editing any more. I would like words from you guys on this. What is the GPT partition table? I also have my BIOS not clocked but the RAM and such optimized to match. My secondary BIOS is clocked in the event things get dated and I need the speed. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Thanks Guys, and its great to see you are still around "boondocks"! I owe you for all the guidance in the past. I have the USB media stick ready. I also have the key on the Win74 Pro 64 bit DVD case. I am not going to go RAID again. It is like a run flat tire but if a virus or malware gets on one its on both. So I am going to just do disciplined backups. I have a WD Black 1TB HDD I will be using for program storage. And several other HDD's for BU's. I hear doing the separate program storage to a HDD saves on writes but am not sure its worth it. I don't game or do much video editing any more. I would like words from you guys on this. What is the GPT partition table? I also have my BIOS not clocked but the RAM and such optimized to match. My secondary BIOS is clocked in the event things get dated and I need the speed. Thanks!
    Yep, good to hear from you again.
    GPT is when you install Windows in UEFI mode, you will end up with several partitions on the boot drive. I usually secure erase an SSD before I install the OS, not strictly necessary but could be useful.
    As for installing programs on separate drives, I have for a long time made my Documents/Pictures etc on my D drive, which is also an SSD. For me it's sort of a holdover from the days of 60GB SSD's I guess, but it also keeps me from losing documents and pictures if something goes bad. I was thankful for my habit in Windows 10 "early" days, it seems something was always getting corrupted, but now I would say WIN 10 has matured enough to cause less problems.
    My two main tools for dealing with most problems these days are CHKDSK C:/F & sfc /scannow. But I'm always overclocking so the OS tends to get corrupted while I'm "experimenting", lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2therock View Post
    Thanks Guys, and its great to see you are still around "boondocks"! I owe you for all the guidance in the past. I have the USB media stick ready. I also have the key on the Win74 Pro 64 bit DVD case. I am not going to go RAID again. It is like a run flat tire but if a virus or malware gets on one its on both. So I am going to just do disciplined backups. I have a WD Black 1TB HDD I will be using for program storage. And several other HDD's for BU's. I hear doing the separate program storage to a HDD saves on writes but am not sure its worth it. I don't game or do much video editing any more. I would like words from you guys on this. What is the GPT partition table? I also have my BIOS not clocked but the RAM and such optimized to match. My secondary BIOS is clocked in the event things get dated and I need the speed. Thanks!
    GPT is the GUID Partition Table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table

    You need GPT as a part of getting secure boot enabled: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/b8/...ent-with-uefi/

    You really want secure boot: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../dn168167.aspx

    To confirm that secure boot is running, get you can check it by running windows powershell as admin, and then executing this command: Confirm-SecureBootUEFI https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...=wps.630).aspx

    Don't proceed to install applications until you are sure you've got secure boot enabled.

    As for the SSD, modern SSDs, such as your Sandisk X400 have excellent write endurance, so I would not think twice about installing everything to that drive and making it the only drive in your system. If you have a large SSD, there is no reason to put things on separate drives (unless you want to put the swap file on another SSD). However, if you are planning continual system tweaking and expecting to corrupt your OS, then putting your data in a separate partition or disk is a good idea.

    As for RAID, I'd never consider building a system these days without it. You don't want all of the time and effort that goes into setting up your system and getting it dialed in to be lost subject to a single drive failure. This is separate from the idea of a backup (I use Carbonite for backup). Install your setup as a single drive RAID 0 for now, this leaves you with the option of easily going to multidrive raid later on.
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    Thanks guys, I'll reply back here with my venture report.
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