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    Is there any way to OC the 667MHz memory?
    Is it worth getting 1066 memory, I won't be upgrading my setup for the next 6 months and IT is actually kinda waste of money buying a DDR2 1066MHz memory right...
    I O.C-ed it to 3.6GHz but it was giving me blue screens and display driver problems and I was really impressed and happy with the speed.
    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    • BIOS: Award modular bios v6.00pg
    • PSU: 500W Antec power supply
    • GPU mode: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GT LP
    • Latest nVidia driver installed
    • CPU heatsink: Cooler master 212 EVO
    • Case: Antec Sonata III
    • RAM: 2x2GB kvr800d2n5/2g , 2x2GB kvr800d2k2/4gr


    Edit: I removed 2 sticks of 667MHz and clocked it like the post from @lukevega thread:

    Code:
     Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9] 
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [400] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Auto]
    
    
    CAS Latency Time_______________5_Auto
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_Auto
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_Auto
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_15
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_Auto 
    Rank Write to READ Delay________3_Auto
    Write to Precharge Delay_________6_Auto
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_Auto
    Read to Precharge Delay__________3_Auto
    Static tRead Value_______________8_Auto
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_Auto
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.30]
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] 
    
    Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] 
    I got it to 3.6GHz, with the 9 multiplier, but the downside i was running it on 4GB of RAM!
    Should I try it on higher and get another two sticks of 4GB? Does your CPU makes alot of errors?
    Last edited by Milansu; 11-27-2017 at 03:48 AM.

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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    Good News!!!
    Your memory modules are not 667MHz, they are 800MHz.

    In your screen-shot, your cpu is not overclocked and the FSB (Front Side Bus) is 333MHz. With the 2.00 memory multiplier, your memory speed was 667MHz where 2.00 x 333 FSB results in 667MHz memory speed. If you had used the 2.40 memory multiplier with the 333 FSB your memory speed would have been 800MHz.

    Your kvr800d2k2/4gr memory is a kit that has two 2GB modules.
    Your kvr800d2n5/2g memory is a single module and you have two of the 2GB modules.
    You should install the kvr800d2k2/4gr modules in the #1 and #3 memory slots and the kvr800d2n5/2g modules should be installed in the #2 and #4 memory slots.

    ALWAYS unplug the power supply's A.C. cord from the wall outlet before you remove or install any hardware in your computer.

    Does your CPU makes alot of errors?
    No, my system has very few errors.
    Your current problems are probably due to incorrect bios settings.

    With 8GB of memory you will probably need to set:
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    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.100V] <--- 0.2 volts might be needed
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] <-- one click higher might be needed
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal] <-- this setting might also be optimal with a 10% overclock
    Before you start overclocking you need to run each of the Prime95 stress tests, one at a time for 8 to 12 hours. If there is a worker error during the test, this means that your system is not stable and the test(s) should be stopped. It's important that your have a rock solid, stable setup before you start overclocking.

    Part of your problems might be because you did not load Optimized bios default settings (F7) before you made your first bios changes.

    You can save yourself a lot of time and grief if you use the F11 (save CMOS to Bios) and F12 (load CMOS from Bios) function keys so that you can save and load stable and testing bios profiles. See page 34 in the P35-DS3L motherboard manual.

    Read through the first 100 or so posts in Luke's Xeon overclocking thread for additional bios tweaks and pay attention to the useful information provided in the screen-shots that include HWiNFO, Memset, any other programs that provide detailed information about your system. You will also see that I stressed that it is important, nay critical to provide detailed information about the types of errors that occurred and the settings that were used.

    Once your system is fully stable, a 10% overclock to 3.477 GHz (9.5 x 401MHz) with memory running at 802 MHz should be relatively easy.
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    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    When I only leave kvr800d2k2/4gr memory in it shows 800MHz, im not sure, CPU passed the tests and i loaded the default settings (F7).

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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    What tests are you running?
    Are you running any of the Prime95 stress tests?
    How long are you running the tests?
    How high are the cpu temperatures during the tests?
    How much memory is installed? 4GB? 8GB?
    Are there any problems or errors?

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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    Thank you so much for your patience and interest in this really "old" topic, but these Xeons CPU really got in my interest,
    I was running the P95 test, In-place large FTTs (Threads: 4)
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    [Nov 29 13:48] Torture Test completed 409 tests in 11 hours, 19 minutes - 0 errors, 0 warnings.
    CPU temperature was around: 35-38 C while the cores were around 55-60C. This is in the beginning of the testing, I had to go to school.
    (I will need to clean out my CPU cooler though its abit dusty but not rusty)

    The picture I posted (BIOS) loaded with F7 default settings with all 8GB of RAM installed.

    Going to mention again, when i left only
    kvr800d2k2/2gr memory in the slots (#1 && #3) my BIOS was showing 800MHz.
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    I think this memory is dying, I notice sometimes that when I play some high end games like (Playerunkown's Battleground) I receive the following error: 'The Instruction at 0x####### referenced memory at 0x#######. The memory could not be 'read'.
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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    Part of the problem is that you didn't include detailed screen-shots that showed some of the settings that were used. Look at Luke's screen-shots to see the amount of detailed information that he provided even when everything was OK.

    When you include a screen-shot, you need to arrange the individual windows with useful information and discard the rest of the screen that doesn't help to show what settings were used. I save my screen-shots using the PNG file format so that the image quality does not degrade each time I modify and re-save the file. My monitor is 2560 x 1440 and if I post the full screen image most of the data will be to small to read.

    Your KVR800D2K2/2G memory modules are two years newer than the KVR800D2N5/2G modules, but the N5/2G modules have faster 5-5-5-18 primary memory timings with a 400 MHz FSB. You might be able to run with both kits installed if you use the slower 6-6-6-18 primary timings of the slower memory when your FSB is set to 400 MHz.

    I do not think that your memory is dying, the problems are probably caused by using settings that are not correct.

    When you make bios changes, you need to verify that the System Memory Multiplier is properly set up based whether you are using a 333 MHz or 400 MHz FSB.

    Attached is a sample cropped HWiNFO screen-shot that also includes a cropped image of your memory kit details. HWiNFO provides useful information that sometimes shows details that might be related to stability problems.

    Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450-hwinfo-kingston-ddr2-kvr800d2xx_2g-memory-kittimings-jpg
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
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    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[8.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [401] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Auto]
    
    
    CAS Latency Time_______________5_Auto
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________5_Auto
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5_Auto
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________18_15
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3_Auto 
    Rank Write to READ Delay________3_Auto
    Write to Precharge Delay_________6_Auto
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________52_Auto
    Read to Precharge Delay__________3_Auto
    Static tRead Value_______________8_Auto
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_________0_Auto
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [Normal]
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] 
     Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] 
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    Default Re: Ga-p35-ds3l , x5450

    In post #8 this is what your HWiNFO screen-shot tells me:

    • In the 1st group, Physical Memory Used + Physical Memory Available = 1976 MB + 6214 MB = 8190 MB --> 8 GB of installed memory.
    • In the 2nd group, Bus Clock = 333.3 MHz, Core Ratios = 9.0 and the current, minimum, maximum and average Core Clocks are all in the 2.999 MHz range --> no cpu overclock.
    • The cpu core temperatures are all similar so you probably recently booted your system and/or you captured the screen-shot shortly after starting HWiNFO.
    • In the 5th group, Memory Clock = 333.3 MHz and Memory Clock Ratio = 1.0 mean that your System Memory Multiplier is set to 2.00 and your memory is running at 667 MHz, i.e. your memory is underclocked from its 800 MHz rated speed.
    • In the bottom group, the cpu fan speeds in the mid 600 rpm range are probably because you haven't run higher load programs.

    I mention this because HWiNFO along with Memset v4.1 and/or several Cpu-z windows provide a way for me to make sure that there are no contradictions between what settings you say you used and what the screen-shot shows. It's all to easy for someone to post their bios template settings and accidentally include incorrect settings. Later today I will include a screen-shot with Cpu-z and Memset windows that help ensure that some of the memory settings are properly set.

    Post #9
    I see that you recently posted new bios settings using 400 MHz FSB along with 800 MHz memory speeds.
    The problem is that the 5-5-5-18 primary memory timings are too "tight" for your slower 4GB memory kit.

    Use the "looser" 6-6-6-18 primary memory timings whenever you have the KVR800D2K2/2G modules installed. When needed, running with looser memory timings can help with system stability.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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