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Thread: Computer Crashs with Games




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    Computer System with disfunction:
    Athlon 2000
    SiS 735 chipset with latest AGP Driver
    Radeon 9600 Pro with Catalyst 3.7
    volcano 7 hsf
    C-media Sound Card
    WD 120GB HD
    640 DDR
    Powmax 400W. PS
    Windows 98se
    Both sound card and video card use irq 5

    Okay, here is my problem. When I play games requiring openGL or Direct 3D the game will ususally crash after a varying time period. I get a repeating sound on the speakers and it freezes up. I then need to do a hard reboot. I used to have a Voodoo 3 AGP card and the same thing happened. This freeze can also happen in Internet Explorer - when the sound is playing - a repeating sound and then it freezes.

    Interestingly, I seldom had any crashes until I got my new hard drive, but that was a necessity (oh yes, my son also added an extra 128MB DDR). Okay problem solvers and guessers, what is going on? How do I force an irq change? Is that causing the problem? Or is it something else. Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

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    That's windows 98 for ya. I'd be willing to bet if you switched to 2k or xp most of those problems would go away.

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    640 mb memory is way too much for windows 98
    256 is microsofts reccomendation but anything up to 512 mb usually works without problems
    alsothe sound and video cards should never be allowed to share an IRQ
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    (oh yes, my son also added an extra 128MB DDR). Okay problem solvers and guessers, what is going on?


    Thats my guess. Unstable Ram....

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    Yep anything above 256MB of memory can cause probs as that os wasn't designed to address more though up to 512MB can be gotten away with but also have the missin' .vxd files been inserted as these are the major cause of instability in Win9x oses. :?:

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    This seems to be information that can help. I know how to remove the 128MB chip. Now about changing the irq, I have the sound card in slot 4 and the modem in slot 3. Is changing the sound card irq a matter of changing slots? Would slot 5 be okay instead of slot 2 to give the video card fan more breathing room?

    (I forgot to mention, before I reinstalled Win98se, I had WinXP installed. I removed it because it seemed more unstable than anything I was used to with Win98se. Could the 128 chip be faulty as well as excessive since XP was even more unstable.)

    Wiggo's suggestion - I noticed this on an earlier post you made and I added those files, except for powrd.vdx, which was unclear if it applied to my particular mobo.

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    If uninstalling that 128mb stick of ram didn't help you that your son added, you might want to do a Google search.

    How to change IRQ settings in Win 9x can be found on Google and the port info is there also if you really think thats what your problem is.

    Do you have harware conflicts?



    http://www.compguystechweb.com/troub...dware/irq.html

    http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6255-5035033.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastille Day
    This seems to be information that can help. I know how to remove the 128MB chip. Now about changing the irq, I have the sound card in slot 4 and the modem in slot 3. Is changing the sound card irq a matter of changing slots? Would slot 5 be okay instead of slot 2 to give the video card fan more breathing room?

    (I forgot to mention, before I reinstalled Win98se, I had WinXP installed. I removed it because it seemed more unstable than anything I was used to with Win98se. Could the 128 chip be faulty as well as excessive since XP was even more unstable.)

    Wiggo's suggestion - I noticed this on an earlier post you made and I added those files, except for powrd.vdx, which was unclear if it applied to my particular mobo.
    Yes change the PCI slot that the sound card is in (check ya mobo manual as it should state the sharing arrangements) but I've never had to insert the powrd.vxd in any system I've come across so far so it's likely to be one for a notebook though I maybe wrong.

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    Took the 128MB chip out. The problem with game crashes seems solved for the most part. I played several levels of Quake 3, Unreal, Unreal Tourney GOTY and 2003. No crashes. On Quake 2, I had a system reboot. I read about those but had not experienced one myself till now. I will try to replicate it later. On Duke Nukem 3D, when I got back into Win98, I had repeating artifacts on the screen until I rebooted. Perhaps the Radeon can not handle dos games.

    Device Manager does not indicate a conflict beween the sound card and video card, but they still share the same irq 5. This was not changed by switching the sound card from slot 5 to slot 6. I was unable to force a change either. I will read those to referal websites for help on forcing a change. Thanks for all your help to date. I have been thinking for some time of getting a Soundblaster live 5.1 sound card. Would that help or hinder? Do they take up more than one irq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bastille Day
    I have been thinking for some time of getting a Soundblaster live 5.1 sound card. Would that help or hinder? Do they take up more than one irq?

    If you have onboard sound, replacing it with a good video card won't hurt. I've had goofy things happen (eg. random 3D video hiccups) using onboard sound drivers (just AC'97) in conjuction with ATI brand video cards but GeForce based cards have always seemed to run O.K. with them for me.

    It sounds like your problem is solved for the most part. I think your new added RAM was unstable for that machine. I'd probably also want to switch those IRQ settings if I were you. Video and Sound should definitly not share a single IRQ but sound sharing one with a modem was quite common on most Windows 98 systems, if I remember right. I'd assign seperate ones if you have an extra to spare. I'm not sure exactly what was sharing with what by glancing at your post.:confused:

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