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Thread: Windows XP + R9500 Pro = Apparent Video Playback Issues




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    Yup, I wasn't seeing things.

    I downloaded a pair of anime episodes off a peer-to-peer server I know of and tested them. I watched both of them, back to back, in both normal screen and full screen views and NO freezing. This is what I expected of an OS like Windows XP. For it to be outdone by Windows 98 SE is like a slap in the face.

    I then played the red vs blue episode I downloaded and that played flawlessly as well, TWICE. I then remembered I had a zip file contained the (then) latest red vs blue episdoe on my old HDD and that I might've transferred it to my new HDD when I installed WinXP. A few seconds of searched turned it up down a few folder paths where I'd transferred the majority of data I backup up off the old HDD.

    I now had a reference piece which I could accurately test what was going on. A red vs blue episode, just like the one I'd downloaded and successfully played, only this one was "used" in that it came from my old HDD, just like my other video files.

    I extracted it and played it and it too played without a hitch. Hoping to have my cake and eat it too, I then attempted to play one of the video files that was causing the errors yesterday and earlier today and BOOM - crashed inside of 20 seconds.

    Now this is just too confusing. The fact that the freeze happened again with the suspect video files but NOT with the red vs blue episode leads me to believe something is wrong with the video file itself. But both video files came from the same source, my old HDD.

    So while I must admit all this testing has shown the existance of a few cracks in my systems armor, none of those cracks are large enough to point to the problem as being my system RAM or videocard RAM. The fact that my games run fine, yet the playback of a video dies supports this assumption. It appears more likely that the video files themselves are the problem. Or so I hope since this form of problem would only cost me time, where the other form of the problem would cost me money I don't have.

    However I'm still going to run the memtest that you suggested maximus7001 just to be on the safe. The fact that my system froze while simply typing a forum reply still disturbs me.

    I also found this program that supposedly scans video files, discovers what codecs they need to be played properly and then reports if my system has those codecs installed. Its called "GSpot v2.21" if anyones ever heard of it. I'm gonna run that on the video files that are giving me trouble and see if I can solve my playback problems with some hardcore codec searching.

    I'll post back if I come across any new developments. Thanks for all your help guys! This forum rocks the party. :thumb:

    -A much happier Fiercest :afro:

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    Didn't see that coming. Are any of the video files under 1MB? I'd be willing to test one if you e-mail it to me.

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    Negative. The smallest video file I've tested that was giving me trouble is 90 MB large.

    Thanks for the offer though man. From here its pretty much a matter of more tests and more time, which I'm willing to invest, just not right now. I've had enough tests for one day. ;)

    Lets just get a good nights rest and we'll try again tommorow. God knows we've earned it. ;)

    Peace.

    -Fiercest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yawgm0th
    Just to clarify (getting off-topic now), asklepios was completely wrong about the server statistics. While more than half of web servers are using Apache, only about 30% of them use Linux (inlcuding TweakTown). More use Windows and many use regular UNIX, and there's no telling what file systems they're using (most will probably not be ext3, though). His point that you are likely to download something from a server using a different file system stands, though.
    Enough wasted time on that subject. :D
    errm...sorry if i was wrong but what i intended to say was Linux = Linux + Unix. you said that Windows servers are more. well i agree if you say it but just have a look at this
    http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
    all of those sites are running *BSD (variant of UNIX) which uses UFS i.e. Unix File System. no *nix OS can run on NTFS or FAT32 so you can easily tell what file system they are using. either it is UFS or some variant of a journaling FS which certainly will not be NTFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiercest
    Upon playing a video file (same format as previously used video files, but not the exact same video) I got a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA stop error within two minutes. BUT the error also included this line:

    *The problem appears to have been caused by the following file: ati2dvag.dll*
    have you tried setting your virtual memory to 0 and then setting it up again? that error usually comes when you have a corrupt paging file.
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    Hey asklepios, welcome back to the fold.

    Setting my virtual memory to 0? Isn't that equivalent to disabiling the paging file? Isn't that highly recommended AGAINST in Persian Immortal's tweak guides?? Supposedly, Windows XP needs a paging file to run correctly....but what the hell. A refresh of the paging file sounds like its worth a shot. Try that out soon. Thanks!

    -Fiercest

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    Update, maybe even the last one...

    Alright, had work on Sunday so I had to postpone a few tests until this morning but I may have stumbled across the problem.

    I did several things including reseting my IRQs to WinXP defaults (all major devices sharing IRQ 5), error checking my HDD, (with the scheduled check after restart option, both option checkboxes selected) triple checking BIOS, mobo chipset, directx, video, sound and even network card drivers to make sure they were the most recent versions, reinstalling WMP, reinstalling the DivX codec (v5.1.1), deleting and recopying the video files from the old HDD to the new, reseting my page file (first setting it to 0, restarting, setting it back to 2 gigs and restarting again) running "SFC /scannow" with the WinXP CD in the drive and finally, defragmenting.

    After checking a few video files, two of them played successfully until the third one crashed WMP (it just disappeared) and thrust me back to my desktop. Upon trying again, the video played farther then it did the first time but resulted in the system crashing and instantly restarting.

    Thinking it truly was my system memory and/or videocard (possibilities I've been in stubborn denial about due to their costly consequences) I was about to burn the memtest86 ISO onto a CD and attempt the overnight test maximus7001 suggested when it suddenly hit me to try GSpot on the video files under my old Win98SE installation stored on the old HDD. Doing this I didn't discover anything shockingly different about the codec information for the video files (the codec entries were exactly the same for both Win98SE and WinXP OS installations) but as I was restarting, planning to boot back into WinXP and continue the ISO burn, I noticed the "DivX505Bundle" file on the root of my old HDD.

    This told me that under Win98SE, I was using the DivX 5.0.5 video codec and not the 5.1.1 I've been using all this time under the WinXP tests. I'd completely forgotten that the version under Win98SE was different, I'd simply assumed I'd upgraded the codec to 5.1.1 before I migrated to WinXP.

    Using this as a base, I uninstalled the 5.1.1 codec from under WinXP, copied the 505Bundle from old HDD to new, and installed the 5.0.5 codec on my WinXP installation.

    Voila! Problem solved! *Knocks on wood; I swear to God my rig has ears...*

    Suddenly all my videos are playing as if I were under Win98SE again...flawlessly.

    So YAHOO! *Breaks it down* :smokin:

    My thanks to everyone thats been helping me cut the fat and narrow the range of problem causing possibilities. I'm going to run the memtest86 test just to be safe, but for now it seems as though I've weathered yet another troubleshooting storm. Who knew WinXP would've given me this much trouble? But thinking of staying with Win98SE in this day and age is dangerous thinking.

    So thanks alot everyone! If I come across any more video playback related problems, I'll be sure to let y'all know so we can hack it to bits together once again.

    Hip Hip Hooray. :cheers:

    -Fiercest

    P.S. I don't know why the 5.1.1 codec appears to have been the culprit, and why the stop errors were reporting it was my Catalyst drivers, but every system is unique and mine is far from winning any operational beauty contests. Just to be safe though, if you have the DivX 5.0.5 codec (and its working fine) and an ATI Radeon 9500 Pro card (the original one made by ATI themselves) you might want to think twice about upgrading to 5.1.1.

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