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    Question New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Hey all, long time no write. I'm trying to put together all the extra parts I had left from the last AMD machine I tried to build. I'm 1-1 with AMD right now, and this is looking like another strike.

    Here's what I'm throwing together:

    AMD Athlon XP 1800+
    ECS N2U-400-A
    Mushkin Basic 512Mb PC3200
    WD 80Gb SE
    Memorex 16x DVD-ROM
    Antec Case w/ Antec 350W SL350
    Albatron WinFast A340 128Mb

    Here's my problem, boot via CD to install XP Pro. The install goes through copying all the temporary drivers etc. Then it says "Setup is Starting Windows", and it halts from there. I checked microsoft's website, and it says at that point it checks the hardware and most issues at that point are due to a RAID driver problem. No RAID issues here, tho.

    I will say everything is brand new out of the box, except the CPU. I thought as long as it booted up and everything was okay, but if it's checking hardware, maybe it's finally hitting some catch in the CPU.

    Every single piece has been tested with a known working part, or tested on another machine and everything checked out.... except for the CPU. I don't have an extra machine or CPU to test. I'm probably answering my own question, get another CPU and test it... but i don't wanna spend any cash. I'm alredy over my Computer Budget the wife gave me as it is. lol
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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    When it first boots, does it recognize the processor as the one it really is? Running at the proper speed? It wouldn't be the fisrt time that a motherboard comes from the factory without the default setup and the processor can't hack it. Try going into BIOS and resetting to default or "SAFE" settings. After you install Windows, you can start tweaking.
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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Thx Darthtanion, I think I've tried that already tho, and 'yeah' the BIOS reads the CPU with the correct tag and speed. The worst part is that I had all the same hardware running on an Epox 8RDA+ with the EXACT same results. I have honestly and literily switched everything out... minus the CPU. Our IT guy at work says, 'HELLO, I always check the CPU first! It probably has a problem switching from DOS mode to GUI mode'.... or something crazy like that.
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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Hello,

    My name is Michael and I must say that I am very happy to see that someone besides me is having this SAME EXACT problem down to the very letter ("Setup is Starting Windows..."). I have been struggling with this problem for approximately 8 months and it has been very frustrating to say the least. I would first like to describe my rig so that you can possibly analyze what might be the problem.

    All of the following are brand new:
    AMD Athlon XP 2600+ Thoroughbred (FSB333) running at factory spec of 2.083Ghz (not Overclocked)
    1 Stick of 512MB PC2700 DDR Ram by K-byte (so therfore not in dual channel mode)
    ASUS A7N8X DELUXE with integrated sound, dual 10/100 ethernet LAN, 8xAGP, supports dual channel DDR for up to DDR400, and up to FSB400 for cpu
    1 16x DVD-Rom drive and 1 52x cd-burner (both IDE devices)
    1 40GB Western Digital 7200rpm IDE drive (so i shouldn't have any SATA, SCSI, or RAID issues)
    ATI Radeon 9600XT (i have been having this xp problem since before i got this card though)

    Here is what I have tried thus far:
    Tried installing various operating systems including win98 SE and win2k pro and win xp pro and fedora core 2 linux to see if this was a problem for just 1 OS: only xp and 2k gave me the problems
    Tried flashing bios to most current version: no effect on install (but gave a nice boost to some of my progs i run in 98)
    Tried installing all manner of driver updates for comp: no effect except nice performance boost in my programs hehe
    Tried upgrade from win98 SE to xp and 2k: no effect
    Tried clean install w/ and w/out pre-partitioning my HDD: neither xp nor 2k worked
    Tried only running bare minimum to install (i.e. only 1 optical drive either the burner or dvdrom and HDD) :no effect
    Tried changing the master/slave configurations of the drives ( i.e. dvdrom master buner slave, visa versa, and then tried setting one or the other as the primary slave to the HDD) : no effect whatsoever
    Tried calling microsoft for support; i talked with that support guy for 2 hours and he was stumped.
    Tried copying all of the install files from the \i386 folder on the disks to start the installer: no effect
    Tried taking my tower to the computer help desk at my university and even they couldn't figure out what the problem was
    Tried disabling all of the extra features i wasn't using ( like the built in lan and modem controller and the firewire ports) : no effect, but i can now boot much faster than i used to. hehe

    Ever since the first time i booted my computer, the bios detected what kind of cpu i had correctly, but I'd appreciate help on how to configure my settings to "SAFE" in the BIOS so i can see if that might be a possible solution for me. I don't know how to do that, so that would be very nice if someone could tell me how to do that. This is my first time to ever post in a forum like this, so I hope that I can find help on this matter, as I have been unable to find anyone with a similar problem until just now. Also, this is my first time building a computer, so I am glad that someone more experienced than i am is having a similar problem so i know that I haven't done anything drastically wrong.Thank you for reading this very long post and i hope that our problem can be resolved and in a quick fashion. Just as a side note, i tried win xp home as well and that didn't work either.

    -zwqg1985

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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    zwqg1985 with your mainboard in the BIOS under Exit you'll find, "Load Setup Defaults", this is the safe default setting but also have you tried setting the FSB down to 133MHz or 100MHz to see if that would work?

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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Thank you for the bit of advice wayout44, I'll give that a try as soon as I am not too busy ( I have to write a five page paper by wednesday and i haven't started yet O.o ) So, I'll try to do that. I haven't lowered my FSB setting from 166Mhz yet though, as I didn't want to do anything to touch the clock settings on my computer, but i'll also give that a shot to see if that works. Is there any way for me to save my current BIOS settings to a seperate file so that i can reload them later, or will i have to write down all the settings i want to keep so that I can reload them manually after the install completes? (provided that this solves my problem) Thank you anyways, and I'll get back to you probably by late wednesday. In the mean time, if people will post other possible solutions (just in case...), that would be greatly appreciated.

    -zwqg1985

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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Write the settings down. ;)

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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Well, I've found a donor to lend me a known working 2500+ in a couple of days. So that will at least test the CPU finally. As for not working with XP or 2K, our IT guy says the only difference is that XP and 2K switch to a 'real' 32-bit program at that point of the install. So that leaves bad CPU or bad CPU design, or a certain mix of different componants not wanting to work. And I don't think AMD would put them on the shelf if the whole line was bad. So if this new CPU doesn't work for me, I'll have to blame it on the combination of all the parts I guess.
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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    Ok, since both of you guys have wd hd's, I think I see the common problem. When using a single wd the jumper needs to be removed. The jumper only gets used when there is another hd on the same channel.
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    Default Re: New AMD Machine Won't Install XP

    I tried setting my motherboard settings to default in the BIOS (ie fsb set back to 100mhz and other defaults) but that didn't work, so then i put my fsb up to 133 mhz and no luck either. So i just set everything to what i had before i reset everything and I am going to try some other things that i found on other threads yesterday that might be of some use. I don't understand what my problem is though, essentially i have the same setup as my cousin, and he can run xp and has been able to perform several reinstalls without so much as a stutter from his system. (I think he uses different ram and hdd, and the only difference between our motherboards is that i have the deluxe version that comes with better integrated sound). I hope that we can resolve this problem, and if it turns out to be my WD drive that is being evil, i think i can get another one as my warranty might not have expired yet. In any case that would be the cheapest thing to replace. Keep me posted on any new ideas/breakthroughs. Thanks.

    -zwqg1985

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