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    can i connect 2 comps over a hub(3 nics) to a pppoe dsl......? or is it just impossible because of required user/password?
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    Yes you can.

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    well yes and no
    if you want to connect the dsl modem straight to the hub and get the computers working straight off, no

    you have another 2 choices though:
    1. buy a router and place it between your modem and hub
    2. set up one of the computers to be your router - it shares the net to the network and thus, the other computer.

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    A)If you buy a router, you don't need a hub.
    B)If you use ICS just plug the second computer into the "master" which is connected to the net, you will have to leave this one on all the time, and only be able to use one computer at a time to browse.

    Routers are cheap enough now, that it is probably your best bet. Get a 3-4 port Dsl/Cable router and you will be in business for around $40-$50 and be able to browse with both computers at the same time,

    JMHO,
    Chez

    I was a DSL Tech and that is what we always recommended. That way you also have a Hardware firewall as well.
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    so........if i get a router.....can i browse with both comps.......doesn't it need the user/password? since its pppoe.
    or will it work with a router even if its pppoe.
    My rig:
    amd athlon xp 2500+ barton core @2.16GHZ (180mhz 12x)
    cooler master x-dream(with cooler master high performance thermal compound)
    mobo: asus a7n8x deluxe
    512mb of ddr pc-3200
    radeon 9500 pro
    pctv tuner card
    antec 5.1 speakers
    antec case with 5 80mm fans
    430 watts psu
    15" monitor @ 1024*768 32bit 70hz
    48x cd-rom, 52x24x52x cdrw
    2x 160gbs 7200 rpm 8mb buffer maxtor hdd
    win xp pro with sp1a
    all drivers updated

    "They say that when you run a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic voices... But that's nothing - When you run it forwards it installs Windows"

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    Who is your ISP, don't tell me its SBC YAHOO!?

    Anyway, the router will connect you and send the username and password.

    So yes.

    Chez
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    WD120JB 7200 8mg Cache ~ Maxtor Quantum Fireball 60GB
    Lite-on 48x24x48x16x CDRW-DVD Black ~ Aopen 56x Cdrom Black
    Enermax 3.5" Fan controller A3FATR2 ~ Round UV Blue cables/Silver braid
    2x12” UV/Blacklight CC Sound/on-off/PCI switch ~ 2x12” Thtake Blue CC Sound/on-off/PCI sw
    ALL wires UV Blue sleeved + Hshrink - Cornea CT 1904 19" LCD BLk/Slvr ~ Microsoft™ Windows XP Pro

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    how did you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yes my isp is sbc yahoo, don't got any other choice, and as of what i've heard, they don't like routers........
    My rig:
    amd athlon xp 2500+ barton core @2.16GHZ (180mhz 12x)
    cooler master x-dream(with cooler master high performance thermal compound)
    mobo: asus a7n8x deluxe
    512mb of ddr pc-3200
    radeon 9500 pro
    pctv tuner card
    antec 5.1 speakers
    antec case with 5 80mm fans
    430 watts psu
    15" monitor @ 1024*768 32bit 70hz
    48x cd-rom, 52x24x52x cdrw
    2x 160gbs 7200 rpm 8mb buffer maxtor hdd
    win xp pro with sp1a
    all drivers updated

    "They say that when you run a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic voices... But that's nothing - When you run it forwards it installs Windows"

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    Cause I was a DSL TECH for them and they are the only fuc$#%% company that sells DSL with a USER NAME AND PASSWORD and you have to log on like it is freakin' dial up.
    They suck!!!!!!!!!!! I would drop them the minute you can.
    Enternet 300 sucks a$$ and you don't need to load any of that other free bull**** btw.
    If you are using XP, don't use enternet 300. It will mess things up.
    XP has its own PPPOE software.
    The router isn't the problem. They just won't support it if you have a problem, they make you take the router out of the system and only hook one computer up through the modem, which I assume you have a Speedstream 5360.

    Don't buy a router from them either, they suck a$$ too. They have a cayman, and a 2wire, and they both are a pain in the a$$.

    What you need to do is get a router, set it up with the PPPOE settings, put a check in the box that says I need to use a user name and password, and it will keep you connected. If you get bumped off because after 6 hours of no activity SBC knocks you off, the router will automatically resend the info and you will get a new IP address and be back online. It does all of this in the backround, so you won't even notice. That is what is nice about having a router with their ****hole of an ISP.

    I feel like I am back at work!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What windows version are you running?

    And if you have anymore questions, ask away. I obviously know my sh$t when it comes to this ISP.

    Chez
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    WD120JB 7200 8mg Cache ~ Maxtor Quantum Fireball 60GB
    Lite-on 48x24x48x16x CDRW-DVD Black ~ Aopen 56x Cdrom Black
    Enermax 3.5" Fan controller A3FATR2 ~ Round UV Blue cables/Silver braid
    2x12” UV/Blacklight CC Sound/on-off/PCI switch ~ 2x12” Thtake Blue CC Sound/on-off/PCI sw
    ALL wires UV Blue sleeved + Hshrink - Cornea CT 1904 19" LCD BLk/Slvr ~ Microsoft™ Windows XP Pro

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    do you have msn or anyfin? i could use the lil help since am on sbc...

    as you can see on my sig, i got xp pro and hell no, i don't use their sbc yahoo cd, i know how 2 set that up with xp's pppoe. i got a speedstream 5260, got the dsl like 2 years ago or so.......i only need 2 connect 2 comps with same dsl and as it seems, i'll have 2 get the router, there's other isp's around but i don't really like'em.
    My rig:
    amd athlon xp 2500+ barton core @2.16GHZ (180mhz 12x)
    cooler master x-dream(with cooler master high performance thermal compound)
    mobo: asus a7n8x deluxe
    512mb of ddr pc-3200
    radeon 9500 pro
    pctv tuner card
    antec 5.1 speakers
    antec case with 5 80mm fans
    430 watts psu
    15" monitor @ 1024*768 32bit 70hz
    48x cd-rom, 52x24x52x cdrw
    2x 160gbs 7200 rpm 8mb buffer maxtor hdd
    win xp pro with sp1a
    all drivers updated

    "They say that when you run a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic voices... But that's nothing - When you run it forwards it installs Windows"

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    All you need to do is pick up a 3 or 4 port dsl/router, hook it up(it will tell you exactly how) and you will be in business.

    Chez
    SFlower/Kingwin TT-201AB-W 3 window 12 bay Black/Gold ~
    Antec 480Blue modded+UV blue sleeved-hshrink from Pc-perfomance
    A7V8X Deluxe Rev. 2.0 - 2500+ Barton ~ Aero 7+ OR TT 11 Xaser w/ TT fan tube
    MSI Ti4200-VTD8X 8X AGP w/Zalman h-pipe cooler ~ Geil 2 x 512 Cas 2.5 6-3-3-2t w/Blue HS
    WD120JB 7200 8mg Cache ~ Maxtor Quantum Fireball 60GB
    Lite-on 48x24x48x16x CDRW-DVD Black ~ Aopen 56x Cdrom Black
    Enermax 3.5" Fan controller A3FATR2 ~ Round UV Blue cables/Silver braid
    2x12” UV/Blacklight CC Sound/on-off/PCI switch ~ 2x12” Thtake Blue CC Sound/on-off/PCI sw
    ALL wires UV Blue sleeved + Hshrink - Cornea CT 1904 19" LCD BLk/Slvr ~ Microsoft™ Windows XP Pro

    Knowledge is POWER

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