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    Default Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    A 1 - 2cm clearance gap would be too tight if you wanted to install a standard 25mm thick case fan on the side panel above the top of the tall aftermarket cpu heatsink/fan assembly. I have two 140mm case fans mounted on the side panel of my CM 690 case. The lower side intake case fan directs air onto my video card and the upper side case fan directs air to the top of my ~155mm tall cpu cooling fins. The upper fan can't be mounted on the interior of the side case due to clearance issues, so I have it mounted on the outside of the side panel. My editorial comment for this setup, fully functional but ugly as sin. The sooner that computer case manufacturers compromise and do it my way, the happier I'll be.

    I'll take some measurements and post the desired case width with my "optimal" recommendations this weekend.
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    Thumbs up Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    Here are my non-negotiable requirements and measurements for a $200 high-end mid-tower computer case:
    • Motherboard mounting position rotated 90o clockwise for improved cooling
    • Support EATX motherboard
    • eSata Hot Swap Bays
    • Over-sized cpu access cutout + optional cooling fan for additional cpu cooling from the right side panel
    • Case width for tall cpu tower coolers
    • Removable side case window that can be replaced to allow for side panel cooling fans and filters.
    • Exterior exhaust fan shrouds with sound dampening material
    Case cooling fan compatibility:
    • 120mm, 140mm, and 200-225mm
    • eSata and optical bay access from the front and/or left side panel
    HDD and SSD Cage:
    • Complete redesign to allow unobstructed cooling airflow.
    • Removable and using rubber mounted HDD/SSD mounting trays.
    PSU mounting location:
    • The psu will be installed in the lower front corner of the case.
    • The psu will be mounted so that its heated exhaust air will exit the case from the left side case panel.
    • The psu power cables will exit on the right hand side of the case into the cable management area behind the motherboard panel.
    Case width:
    • 20mm behind the motherboard mounting panel for cable management.
    • 225mm from the motherboard mounting panel to the inside of the left side case panel.
    • Able to install high end, 180mm long power supplies.
    Case height:
    • There needs to be enough space below the motherboard for the longest high end video cards.
    • Tall enough for a thick radiator and 25-38mm cooling fans mounted on the bottom of the computer case.
    Case depth:
    • Enough space at the rear of the case for a thick radiator and 25-38mm cooling fans mounted on the rear panel.
    Exhaust case fan locations:
    • Above the cpu on the top of the case
    • Above the video card(s) on the top of the case
    • Rear case panel, top to bottom
    USB and Audio Connectors:
    • Enough spacing for over-sized USB modules.

    Note:
    • My cpu heatsink is 159mm tall, measured from the top of my cpu.
    • The top of this heatsink is ~165mm from the top surface of the motherboard.
    • The top surface of the motherboard is 8mm from the mounting panel.

    I'll leave it to the Lian Li design wizards to make all of this work.

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    Cool Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    OK, I'm getting carried away with the design of my ideal mid-tower EATX computer case.
    I looked at the Lian Li PC-X2000FN large tower computer case to see what the dimensions might be for a scaled down mid-tower EATX case with the expansion slots and I/O panel on the top of the case. With a slightly wider case, two 92mm cooling fans could exhaust hot air from the pci-e slot area. I have an idea for a blower setup, but the cost would probably be prohibitive.

    It's not practical to have a dream computer case that is over 27" long from the front of the case to the back of the case. About 2 - 3" of length could be saved by not allowing a thick water cooling radiator to be mounted inside the case on the rear case panel. I think that the optimal cooling setup will be with cooler intake air entering the bottom of the case and exhausted out of the top of the case. Using case fans on the front and rear case panels will probably disrupt the bottom to top airflow.

    Ignore the power supply mounting area in the attached picture.

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    Default Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    OK, I'm getting carried away with the design of my ideal mid-tower EATX computer case.
    I looked at the Lian Li PC-X2000FN large tower computer case to see what the dimensions might be for a scaled down mid-tower EATX case with the expansion slots and I/O panel on the top of the case. With a slightly wider case, two 92mm cooling fans could exhaust hot air from the pci-e slot area. I have an idea for a blower setup, but the cost would probably be prohibitive.

    It's not practical to have a dream computer case that is over 27" long from the front of the case to the back of the case. About 2 - 3" of length could be saved by not allowing a thick water cooling radiator to be mounted inside the case on the rear case panel. I think that the optimal cooling setup will be with cooler intake air entering the bottom of the case and exhausted out of the top of the case. Using case fans on the front and rear case panels will probably disrupt the bottom to top airflow.

    Ignore the power supply mounting area in the attached picture.

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    Default Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    Wow, you are going above and beyond in terms of suggestions. :D
    Be careful what you ask for.....
    ....you just might get it.
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    Default Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    I like large cases with large windows, and plenty of room up top for a >360 radiator and room for at least another 240 or 280 radiator. I only skimmed the thread but profJim's first remarks mostly suit me fine. I'm leaning toward B-ATX with left side mobo access these days, although I'm currently using a Switch 810. But I'm willing to pay a tiny bit more for a large tower with excellent water cooling options and options for two psu's. (sort of like the Azza Genesis but with the clean looks of the Lian Li).
    Three of my 5 pc's are water cooled, one seriously so, but decent front to ? (rear/top) ventilation is good. The more modular the construction with removable trays etc the better I like it, especially if I don't have to drill out a bunch of rivets.
    BTW I don't consider a few grommets in the rear of the case "water cooling options", but that's me. They're fine if you're going to run a remote rad stand or separate cooling box though. I just don't think Lian Li is well suited for water cooling but again that's only my opinion, I really need more/better looks at the new cases.
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    Default Re: For US$200, Would You Choose a High-End Mid Tower or an Entry/Mid-Level Full Tower?

    For US$200
    1. Cable Management (at least minimum 50mm space at the back of motherborad tray)
    2. Black Interior or fancy colour will do.
    3. Support Tall CPU COOLER (160mm-165mm height) with a 200mmx1 Fan or 140mmx2 fan in side window case
    4. 4 USB III port front panel, off course with Audio.
    5. supports 140mmx2 fan or 1x200mm fan at front case.
    6. supports 120mmx2 fan or 140mmx2 fan or 2x200mm fan at top case.
    7. 120/140mmx1 fan at rear case.
    8. 120/140mmx1 fan at bottom case.
    9. 4 slot hdd bay (can convert to SSD slot or 2.5' hdd) + 2 slot for DVD/bluray drive.
    10. support EATX board.

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