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    Is there a Linux equivalent of ctrl-alt-del to kill apps?????

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    Yes, it's called.....wait for it.......kill. Do "man kill" for the unix manual page with all the flags and options. For an app that you started in a terminal you can do Ctrl + c to kill it. To use kill to quickly kill an app open a terminal and do "top" , note the PID of the app (a number) and then do "kill *pid number of offending app*". You will need to be root to kill an app started by root or one that started with system boot. In kde you can use KDE System Guard to kill an app, K--->System-->KDE Systen Guard.

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    Yep, Mr. C, I stand corrected. You come from a very pretty part of South Dakota. Duhamel TV I think originated there. Along with a lot of scenes shot for "Dances With Wolves" although the major part of it was shot on the 777 ranch south of Rapid City. Used to live in Crawford, NE just south of the "Hills".

    Anyway.. I've been toying with the idea of putting Linux on my computer. I have the means (V-Com.com's System Commander 7.0) to create another primary partition and make it active. Just don't know what I'd do with it once I create it. I've heard of "Pure DOS" that recognizes large hard drives and has a few more anemenities that the DOS you get when you have MS 6.22 or such. Would be nice to boot into something like that so you can change or delete some things once in a while. Seems Windows XP doesn't like you to delete or rename things that in the process of being used at the time. What can I gain using Linux that I don't have with Windows XP with it's ture 32bit OS?

    Now that ought to spark some more responses.. LOL

    Cheers!

    BTW, That's our cat pudder, I named Pudder Bat after I tweaked the photo a bit with a polaroid PhotoMax program. My daughter laughs every time she see that picture. My mom thinks it's the ugliest cat she has ever seen. May be ugly, but he can hear a cricket fart with them ears! LOL
    "Former Nebraskan... fix it with bailin' wire."
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    Well....
    Linux doesn't keep encrypted hidden files recording you every move (I'm thinking of the hidden Win dirs like history.ie5 and its sub dirs MSHIST~ with their own indexes)

    Linux doesn't try and ring home everytime you change PCHEALTH specs (hardware/system) or so

    Linux doesn't keep reinstalling files you delete (in the PCHEALTH dirs like uploadm.exe and config.xml...they just reappear in a couple of seconds)

    Linux doesn't reserve bandwidth for dialing M$ home

    Linux (probably) doesn't have built in forensic hooks ( I don't do anything real naghty but it gets right up the nose that someone can go poking around in my system)

    Linux doesn't expire when it suits Micro$oft's whim

    Linux is bloody cheaper especially when you add the free office-type software that outperforms the M$ stuff anyway

    Some of the things I hate about Window$...and why I am going right back to tors........

    PS Bern.....thanx for all the help.......I only succeeded in trashing the system once with the NV upgrade?????easy to fix up though....
    The older I get...the better I was

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    Well said once again Oldbugger!

    I came to the moral conclusion long ago that I'm not going to run XP. So I figured I'd better start looking at alternatives. Linux just seemed the logical choice.

    I'm running SuSE Personal 7.3 -- now there is only 1 reason for that particular choice. I was able to get a boxed version of this OS at a local bookstore.
    That saved me about 60+ hours of downloading (and that's best case scenario with this steenking dial-up). I just wasn't ready to commit that much time to a sight unseen Operating System.
    3 CD's 2 Floppy's and 3 manuals for less than $40 US. Oh man You just won't find that kind of value from M$. Something like 2,200 proggys included on the disks - none of which are installed by default, it is entirely up to you!

    Frost, there was no need to purchase additional programs with SuSE, as the partitioning is all handled by the setup utilities that come with the OS.

    I'm thinking it's pretty clear with just my limited dabbling in the Linux world -- it's about value, it's about choice, it's about power and it's all about freedom.

    And keep asking those good questions Oldbugger - I'm learning good stuff with you around. Heehee Bern ROCKS don't he.
    :thumb:
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    Hehehehehe...I'm a penguin pimpin' moderator :D

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    In a sorta' related bit of news.
    The Sundance Channel is showing the documentary Revolution OS this month.
    For those of you who can get it, it's gonna' have Linus Torvald, Stallman, and many of the big big names in open source.
    Might be an interesting watch, comes on in about 2 minutes here:thumb:

    Maybe Bern will be on there too?
    The reason a diamond shines so brightly is because it has many facets which reflect light.

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    Originally posted by Mr. C
    [B]Maybe Bern will be on there too?
    HA!..In my dreams.....

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    That's alright Bern, your still a big-name star with us.
    Anyway, you'd probably soon forget about us little folks and be chasing Hollywood starlets.
    It was actually a pretty good history lesson about Open Source. Check it out if you get the chance, better than the typical muck found on TV.
    The reason a diamond shines so brightly is because it has many facets which reflect light.

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    What is SuSE personal version 7.3 Mr. C??

    Congratulations on being a gold tweaker "MR. C"!! Is that what was official??? *S*

    E-mail me sometime when ya get a chance.. probably too busy helping all us know nothing's like myself in here! LOL

    Right now my Windows XP is sort of disfunctional. I boot, or try to boot into XP and get a blue screen PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA and that's about it. believe it could be a hardware thingy. Can't even re-install XP off the CD as it gets to the point of the "Setup is starting windows" and just hangs right there until it halts the system. really wierd.!! If I didn't have System Commander and have already set up Windows ME as a dual boot.. I wouldn't be here now. ME is still functioning.. funny too as the hardware is the same for it as XP.
    "Former Nebraskan... fix it with bailin' wire."
    Vern

    SYSTEM:
    MULTIBOOT -> Windows XP, ME and Mandrake 9.2 Linux

    Abit KV8-MAX3
    AMD 64 Clawhammer 3200+

    Kingston Hyper X 1GB DDR CAS 2 set agressively!
    Custom fan cooler for CPU
    USB 2.0 all onboard no card
    GeForce4 MX440 AGP 64MB DDR Video Card
    10/100 NIC 3Com onboard
    Leadtek TV 2000 XP video input card PCI
    160 GB ATA 133 Maxtor HD 8MB buffer
    350 W Enermax PS
    Toshiba DVD ROM drive
    Yamaha CD Burner
    Pioneer DVR-105 DVD Burner
    Logitec optical mouse on adapter
    DW 6000 Satellite 2-Way internet connection

    jenefarm@direcway.com

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